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Re: The Lower Dacha (New Palace), at Peterhof
« Reply #195 on: May 18, 2011, 07:29:00 PM »

I think this is the view from the link above...

the seasite of the lower dache is in the back of the camera and I suppose a much more in the distance , as I remember it was a long walk through the peterhof park and cottage park to the seaside were the ruins are located.
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Re: The Lower Dacha (New Palace), at Peterhof
« Reply #196 on: May 18, 2011, 08:41:36 PM »
I think it is the lower dacha. The structure of the building seems to resemble it. The curved part of the building is visible on the left side of the dacha. Plus, it came from Anna Vyrubova's album which might indicate as to why she took that particular shot. Just a thought.

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Re: The Lower Dacha (New Palace), at Peterhof
« Reply #197 on: May 19, 2011, 02:02:18 PM »
it could but be, but I really think it's not. Of course I don't have a pic of the other view (over Alexandria Park) from the Mon Plesir palce.. and I think there was only on such terrrase. I knew we sat on this spot. - I think the landscape was not so wide into the Baltic Sea.
I will look at this, next year.

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Re: The Lower Dacha (New Palace), at Peterhof
« Reply #198 on: June 08, 2011, 05:02:32 PM »
I think the photo only makes sense if it is rotated:


This would be the view from Monplaisir looking towards the Lower Dacha. 
Here is a current photo of the terrace of Monplaisir from the Tickets to Russia web site.



I can't really see the details of the palace in the distance, but clearly many pictures have been incorrectly posted in the past.
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Re: The Lower Dacha (New Palace), at Peterhof
« Reply #199 on: June 13, 2011, 06:11:48 PM »
that the pic was roted was also my first thought - but a bit of research at google earth - the bay is a other shape on this side. and when the ruins which I saw and entered last time was the lower datcha - which I think (location, stones etc) it's not seen from that spot. as I said I will see it in some weeks.

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Re: The Lower Dacha (New Palace), at Peterhof
« Reply #200 on: September 11, 2011, 02:24:02 PM »
I-T... you miss the point entirely. Why do you think everything is a personal attack on N&A ? Thishas absolutely NOTHING to do with  N&A, whether I like them or not.
  I told you before, I will post those thoughts on the appropriate threads, if  asked and I feel like it.
 This is about the  artistic and historical value of a recontrustion of a useless and valueless dacha,  finished  in 1897, rarely used and of no real importance.
 This sort of folly [mock Gothic/Victorian] is NOT Russian style and not even of much other than a sop between   St.P and trotting off to the yacht.
 The interior, which I have been led to believe, had been salvaged as it was art nouveau style and  medium quality. Not very popular, but good examples. Some of which may well be in Hermitage furniture galleries.
 I still maintain that the the funds, resources and talents  would be  better used at  older, more important palaces. Not some romanticised  sea shore  middle class, bourgeoisie  villa.

That's because you aren't royal, lol - palaces are no more than a showpiece, like a glorified company HQ. Interesting obviously from an artistic merit viewpoint, but not very informative as to more private tastes. Attempting to intellectualise a family's choice of residence is frankly pompous. It is important to people interested in the people more than the bricks.
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Re: The Lower Dacha (New Palace), at Peterhof
« Reply #201 on: November 14, 2011, 03:35:11 PM »
Do any floor plans exist of this place? It would be interesting to see them. It seems to be not only a part of the Peterhof landscape, but also a favourite place of the family.

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Re: The Lower Dacha (New Palace), at Peterhof
« Reply #202 on: October 05, 2012, 09:36:44 PM »
Hi, I need a bit of advice, can someone help me?

I'm trying to find the lower dacha when I go to Peterhof and it's confusing as to where it is.

For those who've been and actually found it since it's obviously not listed on the tour map, say I'm facing Peterhof having just gotten off the boat. The palace and fountains are in front of me, Marli Palace is to my right. Where should I go from here to find it?

Before, I headed left, and after I got so far into Alexandrovsky park, was stopped by a fence along the beach. There is a good deal of yellow and red brick washing up there, so I wondered if the dacha is on the other side of that fence (so tourists won't go play "climb the ruins" or whatever). But I've just used Google maps satellite image and now wonder if the dacha isn't kind of off to the side of Marli palace instead; there's a seemingly local or private marina over that way that perhaps would've been in front of where lower dacha once was.

Anyway someone could let me know? That'd be super! I promise to take photos and share them if someone can just point me in the right direction. : )

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Re: The Lower Dacha (New Palace), at Peterhof
« Reply #203 on: February 09, 2013, 04:09:15 PM »
http://oldsp.ru/photo/view/17113

To me, despite the caption, this seems to be the imperial bedroom in the Lower Dacha.

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Re: The Lower Dacha (New Palace), at Peterhof
« Reply #204 on: February 26, 2013, 02:24:16 PM »
Peterhof Plans Discusses Future of Lower Palace of Nicholas II !!!

http://www.angelfire.com/pa/ImperialRussian/blog/index.blog/1444659/peterhof-plans-discusses-future-of-lower-palace-of-nicholas-ii/

Reconstructing or conservation of the ruins ?...
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Re: The Lower Dacha (New Palace), at Peterhof
« Reply #205 on: September 17, 2013, 08:55:55 PM »
I'm trying to get all the Peterhof palaces straight. I know the Great Palace looks like Versailles and the Farm is more of a mansion, where Nicholas and Alexandra stayed while the Lower Dacha was being built. So is it fair to say that after the Lower Dacha was completed, when the family referred to staying at Peterhof in letters/diaries they meant the Lower Dacha? I know Alexandra and the girls took a trip to Peterhof in 1915, so the Lower Dacha would have been where they stayed. Did anyone use the Farm after the Lower Dacha was completed? If not, it's a shame. The Farm is my very favorite "palace."

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Re: The Lower Dacha (New Palace), at Peterhof
« Reply #206 on: September 18, 2013, 02:39:08 AM »
I'm trying to get all the Peterhof palaces straight. I know the Great Palace looks like Versailles and the Farm is more of a mansion, where Nicholas and Alexandra stayed while the Lower Dacha was being built. So is it fair to say that after the Lower Dacha was completed, when the family referred to staying at Peterhof in letters/diaries they meant the Lower Dacha? I know Alexandra and the girls took a trip to Peterhof in 1915, so the Lower Dacha would have been where they stayed. Did anyone use the Farm after the Lower Dacha was completed? If not, it's a shame. The Farm is my very favorite "palace."



The Farm was used by other Romanovs or some guests. F.e. GD Sergei and his wife Elizaveta when visiting the Imperial Couple in summer often lived in the Farm Palace.

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Re: The Lower Dacha (New Palace), at Peterhof
« Reply #207 on: December 22, 2013, 11:04:30 AM »
THE NEWS OF THE WEEK END !!!

Peterhof Museum Announces Reconstruction of Lower Palace of Nicholas II !!!

After nearly a year of planning and discussions, a decision has been made to reconstruct the former palace/dacha of emperor Nicholas II at Peterhof.

Click on the link below to read the Paul Gilbert's article on the site Royal Russia  :

http://www.angelfire.com/pa/ImperialRussian/blog/index.blog/1452274/peterhof-museum-announces-reconstruction-of-lower-palace-of-nicholas-ii/



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Re: The Lower Dacha (New Palace), at Peterhof
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