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July 21, 2009, 04:47:27 PM »
Olishka Romanova
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Authentic Portraits of Anne Boleyn
What portraits of Anne Boleyn are actually contemporary likenesses? The ones I see the most commonly are the ones where she is wearing her "B" necklace -but are these authenticated likenesses?
B necklace ones by unknown artists:
[img]http://www.tudorhistory.org/boleyn/anneboleyn1.jpg/img]
[img]http://www.tudorhistory.org/boleyn/anneboleyn2.jpg/img]
The Horenbout miniature is usually credited as being authentic -but I've wondered if it might not actually be a portrait of her sister Mary since Mary's husband patronized Horenbout and there is a Horenbout portrait of him done about the same time as the one of "Anne." Also the sitter is wearing a more elaborate hood, and I was under the impression that Anne wore a French hood, which sits further back on one's head than the one this sitter is wearing.
Horenbout miniature:
[img]http://www.tudorhistory.org/boleyn/boleynmin.jpg/img]
Also wondering about the authenticity of these portraits:
By John Hoskins:
[img]http://www.tudorhistory.org/boleyn/annebmin.jpg/img]
By Hans Holbein the Younger:
[img]http://www.tudorhistory.org/boleyn/boleynsketch.jpg/img]
I ask these questions because when I was reading "the Wives of Henry VIII" by Antonia Fraser it said that the only contemporary likeness of Anne Boleyn was the Horenbout miniature.
Thanks for any information!
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Re: Authentic Portraits of Anne Boleyn
Olishka Princess, I cannot see any of these pictures.
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July 22, 2009, 12:19:47 PM »
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Re: Authentic Portraits of Anne Boleyn
First of all, it is difficult to even identify Anne in some of the portraits out there- eminent Art Historians argue even now over proper identification. The only absolutely comtemporary and identified image we have of Anne is the medallion/coin struck in her honour as Queen in 1534;
http://www.elizabethan-portraits.com/AnneBoleyn4.jpg
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This portrait;
http://englishhistory.net/tudor/monarchs/boleynmainjpg.jpg
can be seen in the National Portrait Gallery, London.
This portrait;
http://dshoppingbug.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/anneboleyn.jpg
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Is at Hever Castle.
Now there are implications that they were both drawn from life and are authentic Tudor portraits due to the positioning of the hands- a particular "vogue" in portraiture of the 1520s-1530s...........but they could be copies, in fact I have read that the Hever Castle portrait is an 18th century copy.
The Horenbout miniature ( which I think is particularly beautiful)
http://www.marileecody.com/sixwives/annehorenbout.jpg
Painted 1520s-early 30's, has been the cause of much dispute. Has been previously identified as Katherine of Aragon or even Jane Seymour. Ives suggests that it could be Margaret Douglas or Frances Brandon.
Sir Roy Strong has identified it as Anne Boleyn noting the falcon badge on the breast of the sitter......guess the jury could be out on that one.
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Re: Authentic Portraits of Anne Boleyn
There was a full length portrait of Anne Boleyn that existed as late as 1773- now, sadly, lost. Could this have been a Holbein original, one has to wonder.
This is a sketch by Holbein;
http://www.earlywomenmasters.net/cds/elizabeth/images/anne_boleyn_detail.jpg
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It is questionable as to wether the sitter is Anne (but she does have rather beautiful eyes).
The second Holbein sketch;
http://www.jack-of-all-trades.ca/meandmine/ab5.jpg
Again, historians disagree on who the sitter is. The lettering is 18th century, there is a Wyatt coat of arms on the reverse and would this undeniably proud Queen be sketched wearing her nightgown??
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July 22, 2009, 04:04:20 PM »
Olishka Romanova
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Re: Authentic Portraits of Anne Boleyn
Sorry about not being to see my pictures -I have never posted any before and am not entirely sure of how to.
Thank you very much for your information on the portraits.
Somehow I don't think the second Holbein sketch is Anne. More likely a Wyatt family member.
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July 22, 2009, 11:53:43 PM »
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Re: Authentic Portraits of Anne Boleyn
You are welcome Olishka :-)
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July 23, 2009, 10:17:09 PM »
Terence
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Re: Authentic Portraits of Anne Boleyn
Quote from: Kimberly on July 22, 2009, 12:19:47 PM
First of all, it is difficult to even identify Anne in some of the portraits out there-
Thanks Kimberly, this has been very interesting. It's too bad the only truly verifiable image is on a damaged coin. That nose might match the last link you posted, but it certainly doesn't match the 2nd and 3rd.
I know she was entrancing, but w/ that huge nose?
I'd vote for the middle two as more attractive. What do we know hundreds of years later.
Thanks for the info. I've got something on the years before that era you might might find interesting, I'll try to figure out where to post it.
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July 24, 2009, 08:52:49 AM »
Kimberly
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Re: Authentic Portraits of Anne Boleyn
Hi Terence, I am more than happy for you to post anything pre Tudor on the Tudor threads, afterall, we have had some interesting discussions on medieval and late medieval royalty here. I look forward to seeing what you have. :-)
Regards Kim (and Prince L in his absence!!)
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July 24, 2009, 06:32:28 PM »
Terence
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Re: Authentic Portraits of Anne Boleyn
Thanks Kimberly. I just thought you and maybe a few others might find this new site interesting...it kind of relates to the Tudors as all this earlier set the stage for them.
Thanks to Chris G. and Rfer on the Irish genealogy list I subscribe to...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8160081.stm
The detailed service records of 250,000 medieval soldiers - including
archers who served with Henry V at the Battle of Agincourt - have gone
online.
The database of those who fought in the Hundred Years War reveals
salaries, sickness records and who was knighted.
The full profiles of soldiers from 1369 to 1453 will allow researchers
to piece together details of their lives.
http://www.icmacentre.ac.uk/soldier/database/
Terry
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July 24, 2009, 11:09:26 PM »
Mari
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Re: Authentic Portraits of Anne Boleyn
Very interesting links Terry I found ancestors! I also wanted to comment about Anne Boleyn. I think her nose was not a problem apparently she had great charm or sex appeal see below:
Cavendish's Life of Wolsey.
) "There was at this time presented to the eye of the court the rare and admyrable bewtie of the fresh and yonge Lady Anne Bolein, to be attendichte upon the Queene. In this noble imp the graces of nature, graced by gracious education, seemed even at the first to have promised blis unto hereafter times ; she was taken at that time to have a bewtie not so whitly clcere and fresh, above al we may esteeme, which appeared much more excellent by her favour passinge sweete and chearful, and thes both also increased by her noble presence of shape and/a«-on, representing both mildness and majesty, more than can be exprest. Ther was found indeede upon the side of her naile upon one of her fingers some little showe of a naile, which yet was so small, by the report of those that have seen her, as the icorkmaister seemed to leave it an occasion of greater grace to her hand, which, with the tip of one of her other fingers, might be and was usually by her hidden, without any least blemish to it. Likewise ther wer said to be upon certin parts of her boddy small moles, incident to the clearest complections; and certainly both thes were none other than might more stain their writings, with note of malice, than have catch at such light moles in so bright beams of bewtie, than in any part shaddow it, as may right wel appeare by many arguments, but chiefly by the choice and exquisite
Trained in the court of France, Anne had learned to improve her person by all those embellishments of dress, which, under the direction of good taste, render art so powerful an auxiliary. she danced like a nymph, and not only touched the lute and virginal with a masterly hand, but accompanied them with her voice in a strain of delicious melody. To these brilliant accomplishments she added an exquisite winningness and propriety of manners, not less rare, and even more seducing than beauty; insomuch, as Lord Herbert says,* that " when she composed her hands to play and her voice to sing, it was joined with that sweetness of countenance that three harmonies concurred: likewise when she danced, her rare proportions carried themselves into all the graces that belong either to rest or motion; briefly, it seems, the most attractive perfections were eminent in her."
* Lord Herbert appears to have derived his account of Anne Boleyn from Sir John Russell, the first Earl of Bedford,—on whose authority he informs us, that Jane Seymour was the more majestic, but Anne Boleyn the more lovely ; that love threatened in the eyes of Jane, but laughed in those of Anne; that the former, the richer she was dressed, the fairer she appeared, but that the other never looked so fair as when she was plainly dressed. The same connoisseur adds, "though Queen Catherine, in her younger days, was, for beauty and dignity, not often to be paralleled."
Paintings of the time perhaps do not do justice although besides the accomplishments and arts She learned at the French Court She had beautiful eyes.
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Re: Authentic Portraits of Anne Boleyn
There is a posthumus portrait of Anne Boleyn and she doesn't looks like in the majority of her other portraits.
Are the other portraits real?
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