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Re: The Farm Palace, in Peterhof
« Reply #90 on: August 02, 2008, 05:36:29 PM »
Vadim Znamenov made a miraculous recovery from his stroke Joanna, and, fortunately, with no deficit.   He certainly possesses an extraordinarily deep knowledge and understanding of arts, culture and history.   As a man, he could scarcely be more different to Ivan Petrovich Sautov.   I doubt they would ever have been able to understand each other - polar opposites, but each effective in his own way.

As Bob Atchison wrote, Ivan Petrovich's immense influence has been felt well beyond the precincts of the palaces and the parks of Tsarskoe Selo.   He was a key figure in the town of Pushkin and in its regeneration.

Ivan Petrovich, such a forceful and powerful character has laid the groundwork which should see the restoration of the many still remaining ruins at Tsarskoe Selo - including, of course, the Farm, which, though very different in its purpose to that at Peterhof, still played an integral part in the lives of successive Romanovs at Tsarskoe Selo.

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Re: The Farm Palace, in Peterhof
« Reply #91 on: August 03, 2008, 10:50:27 AM »
There is another park nearby, the name of which I can't remember.  It is actually a lake with 2 islands,  small palaces. Created for the daughters of  one of the emperors.  I have not been there- yet, but it is apparently very popular with Petersburgers.  Off the beaten track  for tourists. Perhaps someone here can give more information about it?
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Re: The Farm Palace, in Peterhof
« Reply #92 on: August 03, 2008, 12:17:42 PM »


Maybe the Rose Pavillion, located in the Ozerky Park ?

Or The Lugovoj ( Meadow) Park with Belveder Palace ?

Kolonistskiy park. Ol'gin pond with the tsarina's pavilion ?

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« Reply #93 on: August 03, 2008, 12:24:00 PM »
The Rose Pavillion sounds familiar. All I really know is that  it is a lake with 2 islands, each of which has a small palace or pavillion like the Petite Trianon. Now used mainly for  music events. It can be located on maps of Petrovorets, and is not far from Peterhof at all. My Russian pal will take me there next spring, I hope!
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Re: The Farm Palace, in Peterhof
« Reply #94 on: August 03, 2008, 03:42:12 PM »
Olgin Prud is a lake with 2 islands in the bottom of this map


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« Reply #95 on: August 04, 2008, 03:09:13 AM »
That is it, Reco! Have you been there? Apprently it is  a  nice place to go for Petersburgers, away from tourists. [which is one reason I like Orienbaum so much] I have no pictures of the park and pavillions, so would love to see them if anyone does.
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Re: The Farm Palace, in Peterhof
« Reply #96 on: August 04, 2008, 03:16:21 PM »
I was amazed when standing at the rear of the Peter and Paul Cathedral in Peterhof how close the water and islands were as the distance on the map is deceiving!

Robert Hall, when you visit soon there is a new 20 page book in English "Peterhof - The Tsarina's and Olga's Islands" published in 2007.

Also two fantastic articles with photographs and plans of the two pavilions by VladimirV:
http://www.peterhof.ru/?m=16&p=214
http://www.peterhof.ru/?m=16&p=216

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« Reply #97 on: August 04, 2008, 03:36:18 PM »
Thank you so much, Joanna.  I really appreciate the information.  Springtime should be a lovely time to visit them. A nice diversion on or way to Oranienbaum. I may ask my Russian friendguide to  pick up the book  beforehand.
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Re: The Farm Palace, in Peterhof
« Reply #98 on: August 04, 2008, 04:52:48 PM »
Have you been there? No unfortunately...


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Re: The Farm Palace, in Peterhof
« Reply #99 on: August 04, 2008, 05:13:21 PM »
Reco that is a great satellite photograph!

Robert Hall, do you see how close pavilions to the Cathedral? It will be a lovely walk for you!

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« Reply #100 on: August 04, 2008, 07:47:08 PM »
Yes, I am looking forward to it now more than ever!
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Re: The Farm Palace, in Peterhof
« Reply #101 on: August 04, 2008, 09:01:40 PM »
 The Tsaritsin Pavilion today


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Re: The Farm Palace, in Peterhof
« Reply #102 on: August 04, 2008, 09:23:48 PM »
 The Tsaritsin Pavilion in 1941

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Re: The Farm Palace, in Peterhof
« Reply #103 on: August 04, 2008, 09:43:01 PM »
The Olgin Pavilion today


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Re: The Farm Palace, in Peterhof
« Reply #104 on: August 04, 2008, 09:45:58 PM »
The Rose Pavilion



The Rose Pavilion today