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Dulber
« on: May 17, 2004, 03:29:42 PM »
Does anyone have a photo of this palace belonging to Grand Duke Peter??  Does it still exist today?  If so, what is it's use?  This was the palace where part of the Romanov family was held by the Soviets, before their escape.


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Re: Dulber
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2004, 03:46:14 PM »
Hello Reed,
This palace is now a sanatorium. The facade and garden are well preserved, but i do not know anything about the interiors.

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Re: Dulber
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2004, 04:23:58 PM »
Thanks Antonio,

Any pictures available?

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Re: Dulber
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2004, 05:33:46 PM »
I have a picture of it in Once A Grand Duchess.  very Arabian looking.

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Re: Dulber
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2004, 10:05:03 PM »
I did a fairly lengthy article a couple of years back on Dulber for "Atlantis," so can add that uniquely almost all of the rooms have been preserved.  The only real changes inside seem to have been made to some of the upper rooms in the southern, or family, wing.  The main rooms on the first floor have retained almost all of their original decoration, despite its use as a recovery hospital.

Dulber's a very personal house, and a pure reflection of the artistic tastes of Peter Nikolaievich and Militsa, both of whom worked very closely with Krasnov; Militsa even designed much of the interior decoration herself, drawing on her studies of Persian architecture.  Krasnov seems to have felt it to be his best Crimean house-he spent a lot of time there with the Grand Duke and Duchess even after it was completed.

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Re: Dulber
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2004, 03:14:15 PM »
Thank you everyone for all the information!!  It's a beautiful palace.  If anyone has any inside pictures I would like to see what the interior is like.


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Re: Dulber
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2006, 01:02:58 PM »
Are there any more pictures, floorplans or anything about Djulber?

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Re: Dulber
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2006, 03:33:49 PM »
I have a very good book, written by Prince Roman Romanoff, the son of Grand Duke Pjotr Nicolajvitsj. Prince Roman was a child when Djulber was built, the Prince loved it, and all the year he looked forward to wisit Crimea. He describes every room in the palace, furnitures, carpets, objects...everything, also the garden..the neighbourhood, the neigbours, etc.
In the book there are some photos of the palace, but all takrn outdoor.
There is also the very dramatic story abouth the imprisonment in Djulber, where also HM the Dowager Maria was kept. Prince Roman tells us thet The Emperss got the best room in the Palace (The Grand Duke and Grand Ducess' private rooms) and also GrandDuke Sandro and Xenia with all their children stayed there. The book in very, very interessting because it tells us almost incredibile details from first hand. I have become to love this branch of the Romanoff-dynasty with relations to the Throne of Montenegro, as Prince Romans mother was a Montenegrian princess (also sister of Queen Elena of Italy) I highly recommend this book to all. But unfortunatley I don't know if it is translated to english. Originally it is written in Russian, and translated to Danish by Prince Romans son, Dmitri who lives in Denmark and speaks fluent danish.

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Re: Dulber
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2006, 05:30:52 PM »
e_Adam,
Any chance you could scan some of the pictures?
Also, does the book mention Peter's palace in Petersburg?
I have been trying to learn of the palace that he built near his brother on the Petrovsky embankment in Petersburg, but so far have not been able to learn much about it.
Is it mentioned int his book?
I'll be thrilled to hear any info on their St Petersburg homes.
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« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2006, 04:01:48 PM »
Hi BobG.
I'll write what i know about GD Peters homes in St. Petersburg.
GD Nikolaj NiKolajvitsj (the elder) Had two sons, Nikolaj and Peter. When the father died in 1891 the two sons sold the Nicolaj palace in St.Pb. The byuer was The Russian State, and in 1894 it was rented out to The Xenia Insitute.  The sons shared the rest of his properties, and among other GD Peter got 3 different huge grounds in St.Pb. He also got some houses, but never lived in them, because as his son Prince Roman says: "They could not fullfill our needs". They were rented out, and GD Peter and his family had an huge income on these houses.
Before 1905 the family spent all thir time on Znamenka or Djulber, but when they had to stay overnight in St.Pb for official ceremonies ecc, they stayed by GD Nikolaj, where they had a small appartment. I belive that GD Nikolaj rented this house, situeted at Italy-street. Lateron, after his marriage, GD Nikolaj bought a ground from his brother GD Peter and built a palace on the right side of the river Neva, just in front of Oldenburg Palace, Connecetd to this ground there was another ground 13.000 m2, of GD Peters property. The Russian State wanted to buy it to build the Duma: But GD. Peter didn't sell, because he didn't agree to the idea of a Duma. On his 20. birthday, Prince Roman recieved this ground as a gift.
After 1904 the family GD Peter needed a recidence in St.Pb as the GD was promoted to General Inspector for the Ingenieur Trops. His plan was to built a recidence, but it was never realiced. They rented a Palace at the English Quai. The owner was L.D von Dervis. A few years later they changed recidence, closer to GD.Peters work, at the Fontanka-street no 22. The palace belonged to The Vonljarskij family and was like a huge villa on 2 floors. This was in 1907. As the GD Peter became a part of GD Nicolajs staff during WW1 and GDucesse Militza devoted her time to hospital work and chairity, the family never fullfilled their plans of an own Palace in SP.B, They never came back. They spent their last dramatic years on Russian ground at Djulber, Crimea.
Hope you understand my bad english ;)
Best regards Adam.

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Re: Dulber
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2006, 04:26:53 PM »
Adam,
Thanks so much for your information on Grand Duke Peter --and your English requires no apology!
Your answer explains questions I had posed earlier in another thread.


You've clarified for me that Anna Virubova's memoirs of visiting at a palace on the English Quay was right.
The location of the apartment at Fontanka, 22 agrees with Brian and Zoia Beliakova.

And you seem to contradict Charles description of Grand Duke Peter's house on the embankment next to his brothers.

Thanks.
BobG
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Re: Dulber
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2006, 04:45:15 PM »
Hi BobG.
You are most welcome.  I am very, very interessted  in this branch of the Romanoffs.The book that i refeer to has 510 pages of facts. So if there is anything else you want to know, just ask... ;)  
Hav a good time.
Adam.

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Re: Dulber
« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2006, 07:04:47 AM »
Adam,
Do you perhaps know the Russian name of this book.  I know I could never translate the Danish, but I might have some luck if I could find a Russian copy. It sounds like a fascinating book.
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Re: Dulber
« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2006, 02:52:22 PM »
Hi BobG.
From the preample of " Det var et rigt hus, et lykkelig hus" " Erindringer af Roman Romanoff, prins af Russland, 1896-1919." :
"The book is translated from the original manuscript in Russian, which has never been published before."

But i have understood that the book later has been translated to German, unfortunatley I don't know the title. Maybe someone else can help you.
Best wishes Adam. ;)

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Re: Dulber
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2006, 08:19:37 AM »
The German title is:
"Am Hof des letzten Zaren", it means At the court of the last Tsar, which is not at all what teh book is about :P, what does the danish title mean?