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Re: Abbas Tumani - residence of GD Georgiy Alexandrovitch
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Re: Abbas Tumani - residence of GD Georgiy Alexandrovitch
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Re: Abbas Tumani - residence of GD Georgiy Alexandrovitch
« Reply #17 on: June 19, 2005, 04:00:16 PM »
In the time of G.D. George, Abbas Tuman was associated with tuberculosis isolation, and I believe still is.

In addition to the "Palace" of George, there is also the Dacha of his sister G.D, Xenia, who was very fond of George and would go there to visit. I have pictures of its current state, including of Xenia's Dacha. I am not sure I could scan them to post, but I might try some day.

In addition, there is a beautiful (in the ROC sense) Chappel that I think was dedicated by G.D George. we have a picture of the dedication tablet (and some of the Chappel ).

We also had a picture of the remains of the memorial monument at the site where George died. The Monument was pilferd (destroyed) to create one for a local politico in the Soviet day.

It has also been reported, and seems correct that G.D. George did marry (probably a Dane) who bore twin children (a boy and a girl who were raised in Dennmark and within the circle of the Danish House) born just after his death. It does not appear that the girl ("Alexi" now dec'd) had any children, but the son (educated in England and lost during the Dunkirk rescues) has one surviving son.
As was the custom, I believe they took the family name of "Alexandrov." That survivor was at the interment ceremonies for the Imperial Family, with the Romanov family. So, I don't think he is totally unknown.

Even today, Abbas Tuman is probaly not a healthy place to sojourn.


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Re: Abbas Tumani - residence of GD Georgiy Alexandrovitch
« Reply #18 on: June 19, 2005, 04:08:25 PM »
See Abbastumani in this thread.

The buildings are still standing in the late1990's

There is a chappel, but not on the site of G's death.

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Re: Abbas Tumani - residence of GD Georgiy Alexandrovitch
« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2005, 11:50:33 AM »
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It has also been reported, and seems correct that G.D. George did marry (probably a Dane) who bore twin children (a boy and a girl who were raised in Dennmark and within the circle of the Danish House) born just after his death. It does not appear that the girl ("Alexi" now dec'd) had any children, but the son (educated in England and lost during the Dunkirk rescues) has one surviving son.
As was the custom, I believe they took the family name of "Alexandrov." That survivor was at the interment ceremonies for the Imperial Family, with the Romanov family. So, I don't think he is totally unknown.

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No, he certainly isn't totally unknown.  Thank you, Richard, for independent confirmation of information I had been given by a Romanov family member, some of which I posted elsewhere on this forum in a thread devoted to GD George.

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Re: Abbas Tumani - residence of GD Georgiy Alexandrovitch
« Reply #20 on: June 20, 2005, 01:24:50 PM »
Penny -

Nice to hear from you aagain - after so long.

I think the gentleman has recently moved to Southern France. He is better connected in Denmark and Belgium.
He had an American mother.

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Re: Abbas Tumani - residence of GD Georgiy Alexandrovitch
« Reply #21 on: March 02, 2006, 10:15:14 AM »
Who owned Grand Duke George Alexandrovich's estate at the time of the Revolution? Did he bequeath it to one of his siblings after his death?

Also did Xenia still own her dacha near her brother at the time of the Revolution?

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Re: Abbas Tumani - residence of GD Georgiy Alexandrovitch
« Reply #23 on: March 07, 2007, 08:07:08 AM »
In Grand Duke George Alexandrovich's photo album (so nicely linked to us by Joanna) there is a photo identified as:

"Portrait of Anna Dosaeva."

Could anyone please identify for me her connection with Grand Dike George A?  I am unfamiliar with the name.

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Re: Abbas Tumani - residence of GD Georgiy Alexandrovitch
« Reply #24 on: March 14, 2007, 01:20:42 PM »
I've searched a little bit however I didi not foun much on the place's histoy,could someone help me?

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Re: Abbas Tumani - residence of GD Georgiy Alexandrovitch
« Reply #25 on: March 28, 2007, 03:34:24 AM »
De Baedeker of 1902
Abbas-Touman(1297) dans une vallee encaissee, est un endroit tres frequente pour ses eaux thermales sulfureauses et qui a des bains bien organises.
Il y a quelques villas grand -ducales. Une chapelle s'y eleve a l'endroit ou le grand-duc heritier Georges Alexandrovitch mourut en 1899. Plus loin, la Vorota Otcharovaniia
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Re: Abbas Tumani - residence of GD Georgiy Alexandrovitch
« Reply #26 on: November 12, 2009, 04:35:56 AM »
In Grand Duke George Alexandrovich's photo album (so nicely linked to us by Joanna) there is a photo identified as:

"Portrait of Anna Dosaeva."

Could anyone please identify for me her connection with Grand Dike George A?  I am unfamiliar with the name.

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Anna Dosaeva is a woman who founded the dying GD Georgiy, he died on her arms. Later she went to Empress Maria Fedorovna to tell about Georgiy's last minutes.

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Re: Abbas Tumani - residence of GD Georgiy Alexandrovitch
« Reply #27 on: May 12, 2010, 03:07:36 PM »
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It has also been reported, and seems correct that G.D. George did marry (probably a Dane) who bore twin children (a boy and a girl who were raised in Dennmark and within the circle of the Danish House) born just after his death. It does not appear that the girl ("Alexi" now dec'd) had any children, but the son (educated in England and lost during the Dunkirk rescues) has one surviving son.
As was the custom, I believe they took the family name of "Alexandrov." That survivor was at the interment ceremonies for the Imperial Family, with the Romanov family. So, I don't think he is totally unknown.

Even today, Abbas Tuman is probaly not a healthy place to sojourn.


is there some evidence on the marriage? and how could a place that was used as a sanatorium not being a healthy place? I find this a contraddiction.
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Re: Abbas Tumani - residence of GD Georgiy Alexandrovitch
« Reply #28 on: May 12, 2010, 03:25:18 PM »
here we go again....

Clemence. im with you. i find it a total contradiction even more when they say he not only married once but twice in less than 4 years and have  4 kids...

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Re: Abbas Tumani - residence of GD Georgiy Alexandrovitch
« Reply #29 on: July 07, 2010, 10:21:05 AM »
In Grand Duke George Alexandrovich's photo album (so nicely linked to us by Joanna) there is a photo identified as:

"Portrait of Anna Dosaeva."

Could anyone please identify for me her connection with Grand Dike George A?  I am unfamiliar with the name.

BobG

Anna Dosaeva is a woman who founded the dying GD Georgiy, he died on her arms. Later she went to Empress Maria Fedorovna to tell about Georgiy's last minutes.

Hi Svetabel - please could you tell me where you found the information that Anna Dosaeva was the lady who held G. D. George when he died as I would like to find out more if it is from a book you have read.
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