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Offline Amely

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It seems so difficult to find anybody with Russian Roots. I surely would like to find somebody to share thoughts and feelings with. But people are not interested in such things as their roots. I have brothers and cousin, but nobody cares...they don't bother about their identity, but if you ask them what nationality they feel then they say that not this country...so somewhere they have a problem and they are not doing as well as they should.

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Re: Desperate about how difficult it is to find anybody with Russian Roots!
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2009, 12:47:28 PM »
Amely,

I find it somewhat different, however, perhaps it may be that I am now older.  I have always had an interest in Russian history.  I was adopted at 3 days old in the USA.  My adopted father's parents immigrated to the USA  from Odessa, Ukraine.

Dad always shared the stories that he was told by his mother and father.  I did ancestry research on them in a genealogy course that I took.  Dad shared the stories of extreme conditions leading up to the 1900's.  These were disruptive political.  It was not uncommon for sole proprietors and business owners to carry a hand gun to protect themselves.  My father's father was leaving work one evening with his proceeds from the day.  Once he was out on the street, he observed a Cossack on horse back cantoring towards him, waving an open sword.   He shot the Cossack in self defense, and imprisoned for doing so, to Siberia. He escaped from the and returned to Odessa, to unite with his wife and other family.  They immigrated to the USA in the late 1890's through Ellis Island, New York.  I have a copy I found through ancestry.com, of the ship's manifest, departing from Europe. My father's family is recorded on the 1910 USA census bureau records, living in Detroit, Michigan.

I have also researched my adopted mother's family, who immigrated to the USA from England, however, they were originally from Poland. They also came to the USA in the late 1890's, and are recorded on both ship's manifest from England, and the 1910 USA census living in Boston, Massachusetts. 

My mother's mother used to tell me the story of her mother, taking her to see Queen Victoria.

If your friends, or people that you ask , are not interested - try taking a genealogy class.  They are often offered through a public library, or at evening classes at the college in your community.  I wish you the best of luck!

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Re: Desperate about how difficult it is to find anybody with Russian Roots!
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2009, 01:00:24 PM »
This forum is full of Russians, both in and out of Russia. Also, go to the nearest Rusian   Curch, you will find plenty of contacts, usually a community centre of some sort. And Just because your relatives are not interested, so what ? They do have to be if they do not want to. My own family  [grandparents] were Russian Greek and I am not the least bit interested in them or their history.  Leave thm be.
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Re: Desperate about how difficult it is to find anybody with Russian Roots!
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2009, 12:47:04 AM »
Thank you for your answers!

I surely don't bother anybody who don't want to regognize their Russian roots. Here where I live it has surely been something to be ashamed of if you had any Russian roots. So it is strange that I have become interested in my Russian roots. But the opening of the world behind Iron Curtain has done much. And as I live next to St.Petersburg and a lot of people from Russia are moving here I became so interested in my Russian roots. But my Russian roots are not "suitable" because they are from the times of old Russia and not Sovjet times.

I surely have put a lot of information into ancestry.com since 1764 about my Roots because I have such a well kept family tree from those times to today. But those are my European roots. With my Russian roots I should enter archives that are closed from the public and there is no such genealogy courses here that could help me enter such registers. It might be possible that if you paid a lot of money to some foreigh specialists or experts something could be found as I have some names of churches and cities and places where people have got married or died. I know my Russian roots to the year 1885.

But I just would like to find people with similar background for fun, but that is probably impossible and there doesn't exist any people. I would like to find some penfriend with similar roots or Russian roots. I am not a very young person as some of you thought, but now I see how the generation before me who fled Russia as children with their parents are dying and only two of them are left: my mother and her brother who fight in Finnish army agaist his own nation of birth. This surely is interesting that he fled with his parents Russia and then as a young man fighted against his birth country.

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Re: Desperate about how difficult it is to find anybody with Russian Roots!
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2009, 01:16:06 AM »
Thank you for your answers!

But I just would like to find people with similar background for fun, but that is probably impossible and there doesn't exist any people. I would like to find some penfriend with similar roots or Russian roots. I am not a very young person as some of you thought, but now I see how the generation before me who fled Russia as children with their parents are dying and only two of them are left: my mother and her brother who fight in Finnish army agaist his own nation of birth. This surely is interesting that he fled with his parents Russia and then as a young man fighted against his birth country.

I responded to you in a pm before this post, so yes, I thought you were younger.  Now I know more, I'd suggest just keep on searching here.  You have found the right site for the info you seek IMO.

Best regards,
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Re: Desperate about how difficult it is to find anybody with Russian Roots!
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2009, 02:08:53 AM »
Dear Terence!

Thank you for your kind answer.

If you read all what I have written as "amely" maybe you get some better picture about my Russian Roots that I cannot share with anybody. The truth maybe is that I am rather lonely with my information and that is why I have put my thoughts on a written text that might become a book one day. I call the text "Between St.Petersburg and Europe".

In this country where I live there are nobody with similar roots than I have. I have been wondering why my grandparents did't leave this country for USA or Paris. My grandmother's Huguenot family had already fled France before the French revolution and maybe they wanted to be near their home and hoped they could get back their property in Russia. Here they were just without money even though my granfather had some granitbusiness etc. He was an interpreter in the war negotiations so his roots are not bullshit. There were also Russians that claimed to be somebodies as the noble people changed identities eg with their servants so there was a mess with people's correct identities. So there were people with false identities that entered USA I guess. If one's identity was false so where also decendant's identities false and what stories could they tell in that case? Something about other people's lifes or their own real life? If you wanted to stay "noble" you had to see to it that your name was in correct registers and I suppose you had to pay for that, too. If you surely was noble you didn't see maybe any meaning in seeing to it that your name was somewhere. You were in constant fear and danger. What I know it has been possible already for a long time to buy you some noble identity or university degree. So who knows who is who and who has the correct identity. What I know is small pieces, but I know they are pieces of truth for sure.







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Re: Desperate about how difficult it is to find anybody with Russian Roots!
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2009, 06:46:09 AM »
I also wrote: Suggest somebody before the French Revolution! The House of Capets??? and "Between St.Petersburg and Europe".

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Re: Desperate about how difficult it is to find anybody with Russian Roots!
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2009, 09:30:41 AM »
Thank you for your answers!

I surely don't bother anybody who don't want to regognize their Russian roots. Here where I live it has surely been something to be ashamed of if you had any Russian roots. So it is strange that I have become interested in my Russian roots. But the opening of the world behind Iron Curtain has done much. And as I live next to St.Petersburg and a lot of people from Russia are moving here I became so interested in my Russian roots. But my Russian roots are not "suitable" because they are from the times of old Russia and not Sovjet times.

I surely have put a lot of information into ancestry.com since 1764 about my Roots because I have such a well kept family tree from those times to today. But those are my European roots. With my Russian roots I should enter archives that are closed from the public and there is no such genealogy courses here that could help me enter such registers. It might be possible that if you paid a lot of money to some foreigh specialists or experts something could be found as I have some names of churches and cities and places where people have got married or died. I know my Russian roots to the year 1885.

But I just would like to find people with similar background for fun, but that is probably impossible and there doesn't exist any people. I would like to find some penfriend with similar roots or Russian roots. I am not a very young person as some of you thought, but now I see how the generation before me who fled Russia as children with their parents are dying and only two of them are left: my mother and her brother who fight in Finnish army agaist his own nation of birth. This surely is interesting that he fled with his parents Russia and then as a young man fighted against his birth country.

amely,

I believe that you are safe here to share what you wish of your ancestry.  We are all trying to do the same thing!  Never feel that know one will be interested.  Further, I believe that most people in the world today look on the Soviet Union as a dark period for many Russians.  It is understood that healthcare - to some degree, education, and housing for all, were major proponents of the U.S.S.R.

Still, the decline and disintegration of the regime, proved that it was a most complicated method of government, and not good for the culture, society, or diversity of the nation as a whole...There was also corruption within the administration.  The old times should not be measured with the new times, for it is a part of history...You are more fortunate than I to be able to trace your roots back to the 1760's.  I have only been able to trace back to the 1890's.

I think you will find many people here interested in your questions.  Just put them out there, and someone may know more to share with you.

Best wishes,

HMB

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Re: Desperate about how difficult it is to find anybody with Russian Roots!
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2009, 11:31:25 AM »
Thank you for your kind responses.

There were so very many people in all classes killed that no wonder there are no people left to share my destiny. We have always feared and I still feel the fear. There have been so many communists and sosialists that have been making frends with the Sovjet people during the centuries since the Revolution, but other people (can they be called monarchist or white Russians) have no friends...

I have been living as if I didn't have any Russian roots, but I have. And I cannot deny them any more when I see how this country is developing. I feel I have something from other cultures...I am not a pure Finn... and I get a strange feeling when I see how people from former Sovjet states are moving here and start to live next to me...and they seem to be rich in addition to everything...

I have not succeeded with my Russian Roots so far as 1764 (that is my other roots), but I have facts to the year 1885 only.

Thank you for encouraging me to write here...In fact I have written something like a book, but I am lacking the red line in it and that is why I have not been able to finnish it...If I could put together pictures and texts that I have written in ancestor.com (similar text now here) it may one day be something like a book or a cd that I can give to relatives that were not interested...or I can share it with everybody interested in their Russian roots etc.


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Re: Desperate about how difficult it is to find anybody with Russian Roots!
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2009, 11:46:23 AM »
I forgot to say that we may not forget that the times before the Russian Revolution were hard and that the landslavery had ended some years before it ended in USA. Masses of hungry people of all kind were trying to enter St.Petersburg and needed to make their living with something.

Everything was not so glamorous as what we feel here today when we are writing about those times. It surely was a different world than our world here today.

If I could have double citizenship (two grandparents from Russia) I would be proud of my Russian roots together with EU-citizenship. If just somebody in Russia could understand that there could be something good with that kind of combination.

There surely should be something I could do for Russia, but no, there seems not to be anything...I checked a lot of sharity organizations and even they seem to want only something luxury...that cannot be the reality for Russian streetchildren and orphanages...but those who are saying they are helping...on one page they showed pictures of very well of orphanages where children were sitting among a lot of toys and they just wanted modern technology, computers, mobile phones etc...


If you mention you have Russian roots from times befor the Revolution, it is not good...I have realized...