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Re: Ella and Zinaida Yussupova (photos)
« Reply #30 on: November 01, 2009, 09:01:08 PM »

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Re: Ella and Zinaida Yussupova (photos)
« Reply #31 on: November 01, 2009, 09:02:30 PM »
anybody know what year this photo is taken?

1894

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Re: Ella and Zinaida Yussupova (photos)
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Re: Ella and Zinaida Yussupova (photos)
« Reply #34 on: November 02, 2009, 02:46:20 AM »
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/ashanti01/communitywebshotscomscreencapture20.png
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who is the gentleman on the left?

I think that's GD Friedrich Franz of Mecklenburg-Schwerin.
The Grand Duke did visit his mothers family in Russia on several occassions so it could well be him...it certainly looks like him.

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Re: Ella and Zinaida Yussupova (photos)
« Reply #35 on: April 03, 2010, 03:28:00 AM »
do you think the lady in the middle of the front row is Zenadia? She has a rather distinctive wave in her hair that makes me that is who it is. I think this picture was taken c1890, but aside from Grand Duchess Marie Pavlovna next to Zeniadia I'm not sure who else is in the picture.




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Re: Ella and Zinaida Yussupova (photos)
« Reply #36 on: April 03, 2010, 08:44:09 AM »
In the middle is Grand Duchess Elisabeth, Masha Wassilshczikova to the left.
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Re: Ella and Zinaida Yussupova (photos)
« Reply #37 on: April 04, 2010, 09:27:47 AM »
do you think the lady in the middle of the front row is Zenadia? She has a rather distinctive wave in her hair that makes me that is who it is. I think this picture was taken c1890, but aside from Grand Duchess Marie Pavlovna next to Zeniadia I'm not sure who else is in the picture.





The date is 1900-1902. Really could be Zenaida by GDss MP-younger's side.

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Re: Ella and Zinaida Yussupova (photos)
« Reply #38 on: April 07, 2010, 08:54:53 AM »
After Nicholas death, both Zenaida and Felix Yusupov turned to Ella for comfort. It would be very interesting to see if any letters survived between the two woman during this period.

Ashanti, yes letters survived. Some examples of them you can read in "Grand-Duchess EF and Nicholas II, materials and documents" (in russian): at pages 806 and 808 we read 2 letters where Ella try to reconfort Zinaida after the death of her son. Perhaps someone can help you with translation if you need. I can also try (something approximative).

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Re: Ella and Zinaida Yussupova (photos)
« Reply #39 on: April 07, 2010, 07:56:14 PM »
After Nicholas death, both Zenaida and Felix Yusupov turned to Ella for comfort. It would be very interesting to see if any letters survived between the two woman during this period.

Ashanti, yes letters survived. Some examples of them you can read in "Grand-Duchess EF and Nicholas II, materials and documents" (in russian): at pages 806 and 808 we read 2 letters where Ella try to reconfort Zinaida after the death of her son. Perhaps someone can help you with translation if you need. I can also try (something approximative).

I would love that! If you could be so kind as to translate those letters I would be forever grateful.

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Re: Ella and Zinaida Yussupova (photos)
« Reply #40 on: April 08, 2010, 07:23:47 AM »
I try an approximative translation of one letter.
1st July 1908
My heart,
Don't write me! There are such moments in life when one can't express on paper his morals sufferings. I don't need you answer me a few words. It will be the best proof that you consider me as you real friend, knowing that I understand you, when you wont do any efforts to write me.
One can't compare your sorrow with mine because you are suffering for two, seeing Felix's suffering: I was alone. Nikolai was a young man, when my Sergey was thirsty about to die in God.
But death is still a separation. I don't like this word. I think that those who let us are preparing a road for us and our prayers help them to clear the road we will have to go once. We don't part with them. Our souls are united in one desire, the desire the Lord will forgive us our sinns and take us with Him. What gave my soul peace, my heart and my mind rest are the relics of St Alexis. If only you could also go to church and pray before the relics of a saint, and then, after the prayer, pour out your sorrow, peace would suddenly enter you and stay with you (...).

End of quotation. The original, in french, is in GARF.

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Re: Ella and Zinaida Yussupova (photos)
« Reply #41 on: April 08, 2010, 09:04:47 AM »
Thanks Matushka !

A very moving letter. Appreciate it very much.  :)

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Re: Ella and Zinaida Yussupova (photos)
« Reply #42 on: June 01, 2010, 05:24:58 AM »
Do you think it is Zinaida on the far right of this photo?




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Re: Ella and Zinaida Yussupova (photos)
« Reply #43 on: June 01, 2010, 07:07:33 AM »
Yes

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Re: Ella and Zinaida Yussupova (photos)
« Reply #44 on: June 01, 2010, 08:31:25 AM »
Who was the other lady ? I am wondering if she was royal...