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Re: Grand Duchess Elizaveta - discussion and pictures PART III
« Reply #375 on: October 05, 2010, 06:56:59 PM »
A higher resolution courtesy of gem_10

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v614/lunarmaiden10/untitled.jpg

Irene is at the piano, Ella is reaching towards Dona, Louis is near the wall, VMH is seated with Alice at her feet and Alix is in the back center talking to a cousin. Serge & Henry are next to each other on the right side of the door while Ernie is on the left side right behind Alix.
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Re: Grand Duchess Elizaveta - discussion and pictures PART III
« Reply #376 on: October 06, 2010, 06:42:44 AM »
How nice!!  Tuxen made a similar thing to Maria F and Alexander III, both posing with Misha!


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Re: Grand Duchess Elizaveta - discussion and pictures PART III
« Reply #377 on: October 06, 2010, 08:29:10 AM »
has the fuller version of this portrait been posted here? Thanks in advanced!



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Actually I had posted the better version more than a year ago:

http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php?topic=286.390

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Re: Grand Duchess Elizaveta - discussion and pictures PART III
« Reply #378 on: October 06, 2010, 09:03:28 AM »
Thank you!! its the best version i ve seen so far!!

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Re: Grand Duchess Elizaveta - discussion and pictures PART III
« Reply #379 on: October 06, 2010, 11:55:05 AM »
I don't know if this was a separate sitting for the Hesses (like the Wales family and others) or not. The poses are virtually identical to that in the portrait but the positioin to each other is off. That makes me think it could be a later composite--especially given that Henry & Irene weren't even engaged at the Jubilee, I don't think. They could have been married however, by the time the original group portrait was done

Just recently I read a letter from GD Ella to her father: that Tuxen portrait ("unsere Gruppe von Tuxen") was Ella and Serge's Xmas present to Grand Duke Ludwig IV. in 1887. She obviously ordered it right after the original huge family assembly was completed.
It is to be seen in the recently re-opened Schlossmuseum Darmstadt - depicting also a tiny Princess Alice of Battenberg crawling on the floor at her mother's feet (the only figure Tuxen obviously "transformed" in that new composition - and the ribbon and bows on her dress are red in that case).
Irene and Heinrich were engaged even before the jubilee took place - already in March '87 Ella writes to her father in addition to the weddingpresent they are planning to give!








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Re: Grand Duchess Elizaveta - discussion and pictures PART III
« Reply #380 on: October 06, 2010, 12:07:14 PM »
Thanks Thomas for the additional info. I haven't read QV's letters to VMH in awhile so I wasn't sure on the engagement period. Given the almost exact posing, etc...it seems that Tuxen might not have gotten the family poses he did with the Waleses, Cumberlands, etc...It looks like he went by what he had for the actual painting--sometimes those were photos of individual sittings but I don't know if the far-flung Hesses (Britain, Germany and Russia) were able to give him those or he cribbed from the actual work.
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Re: Grand Duchess Elizaveta - discussion and pictures PART III
« Reply #381 on: October 06, 2010, 04:44:18 PM »
Tuxen worked with photos on his paintings of the Glucksborgs in Fredensborg & later on the coronation of Nicholas II.

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Re: Grand Duchess Elizaveta - discussion and pictures PART III
« Reply #382 on: October 06, 2010, 05:12:12 PM »
Thomas, where did you find those letters of Ella? are they available to be read online?

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Re: Grand Duchess Elizaveta - discussion and pictures PART III
« Reply #383 on: October 07, 2010, 03:12:23 AM »
No unfortunately not - but some will be published in 2011 - I am transcribing them for a photobook
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Re: Grand Duchess Elizaveta - discussion and pictures PART III
« Reply #384 on: October 07, 2010, 11:28:41 AM »
A livejournal member has shared this beautiful image of Ella, Sergei and Pavel  m, among other people , in a picnic


 


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Re: Grand Duchess Elizaveta - discussion and pictures PART III
« Reply #385 on: October 07, 2010, 12:04:37 PM »
I think it must at their country estate. Serge looked pissed as usual, while Pavel looked shy. Only Ella looked relaxed and natural.

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Re: Grand Duchess Elizaveta - discussion and pictures PART III
« Reply #386 on: October 07, 2010, 01:09:55 PM »
fantastic photo, Katenka! can you give us a link to that livejournal, pretty please :)

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Re: Grand Duchess Elizaveta - discussion and pictures PART III
« Reply #387 on: October 07, 2010, 01:20:16 PM »
A livejournal member has shared this beautiful image of Ella, Sergei and Pavel  m, among other people , in a picnic



 



I can repeat that all photos of Elizaveta from livejournal are actually from


http://www.mmom.ru/ru/gallery/albums/


Russian posters in LJ very often have tendency to keep silence about sources...
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Re: Grand Duchess Elizaveta - discussion and pictures PART III
« Reply #388 on: October 07, 2010, 01:26:36 PM »
Wiiiii.... thank you!!!

 

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Re: Grand Duchess Elizaveta - discussion and pictures PART III
« Reply #389 on: October 07, 2010, 02:14:25 PM »
thank you, Svetabel!

but uhm, is there any possibility that I can save any of these photos to my PC? I can't do it... :(