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Topic: Duke Eugen von Württemberg (1788–1857) and his descendants  (Read 11678 times)
« on: December 21, 2009, 02:05:00 AM »
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A thread about the descendants of Duke Eugen von Württemberg (1788–1857),son of prince Eugen (1758-1822) and thus a nephew of Russian Empress Maria Fedorovna, second wife of Emperor Pavel I.
Eugen-junior was quite famous in Russia, as he spent there half of his life, was a very good military-commander and had a rank of Russian infantry general. He left the Russian Army in 1828 and moved to Germany.

His direct descendants are not well-known, except the fact that his grandson Wilhelm Eugen married Russian Grand Duchess Vera Konstantinovna. The lack of information is really strange as the Württemberg clan was very close to the Russian Imperial family due to such Württemberg Princesses as Empress Maria Fedorovna and GDss Elena Pavlovna. Also Olga,daughter of Nicholas I, was Queen of Württemberg.
The Eugen line was extinct in 1903 when his son Nikolaus died.

Here’s Duke Eugen, his famout portrait from the Hermitage Museum

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a2/Eugene_of_Wurtemberg.jpg

He was married twice:

1.In 1817 Princess Mathilde von Waldeck-Pirmont (1801-25)

2.In 1827 Princess Helena of Hohenlohe-Langenburg (1807-80).
Princess Helena had some interesting relatives as her brother Ernst (1794-1860) married Princess Feodora of Leinigen, half-sister of Queen Victoria. Helena’s sister Marie Agnes (1804-33) married Kosntantin Erbprinz zu Löwenstein-Wertheim-Rosenberg (1802-38) and have a d-r Adelheid (1831-1909) who became wife of Dom Miguel Bragansa and thus a mother of beautiful Bragansa sisters (f.e. Maria Theresia, Archduchess of Austria etc).

Here’s a portrait of Eugen with one of his wives. I am not sure is this Mathilde of Helena: the hair-do is more closer to the 1830s though so could have been Helena



This is a photo of aged Duchess Helena with her eldest daughter Alexandrine:

http://www.bildarchivaustria.at/Pages/ImageDetail.aspx?p_iBildID=12361989

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« on: December 21, 2009, 02:07:07 AM »
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All children of Duke Eugen:

From Mathilde:
1.Marie (1818-88), married in 1845 Landgraf Karl von Hesse-Philipstal (1803-68) and had 2 sons Ernst (1846-1925) and Karl Alexander (1853-1916).
2.Eugen (1820-75), married in 1843 Princess Mathilde of Schaumburg-Lippe (1818-91)

Eugen



his wife Mathilde



3.Wilhelm (1825) died in infancy

From Helena:

1.Wilhelm (1828-96), unmarried



2.Alexandrine (1829-1913), unmarried

3.Nikolaus (1833-1903), married 1868 his own niece Duchess Wilhelmine of Württemberg (1844-92). They were childless.
I’ve never seen any image of Duchess Wilhelmine, still trying hard to find anything. Possibly someone can help in this.





4.Agnes (1835-86), married in 1858 Furst Heinrich XIV Reuss-Schleiz (1832-1913) and had 2 children. Furstin Agnes was well-known for her charity, also she was a writer.

Agnes in 1858, with her husband

 

And in her later years





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« on: December 21, 2009, 02:08:38 AM »
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Children of Duke Eugen (1820-75)

1.Wilhelmine (1844-92), see above
2.Wilhelm Eugen (1846-77),married in 1874 Grand Duchess Vera Konstantinovna nad they had 3 children. Two of them, twins Olga and Elsa, survived. Here are topics on them and their mother Vera:

http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php?topic=5411.0

http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php?topic=523.0

3.Pauline (1854-1914), married morganatically in 1880 Melchior Willim(1855-1910).


Here’s an article on her in Marlene’s wonderful blog:

http://royalmusingsblogspotcom.blogspot.com/search?q=willim

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« on: December 21, 2009, 02:09:34 AM »
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Well, not so much info on these Württemberg Dukes and Duchesses. Any facts and images (esp. on Duchess Wilhelmine (1844-92) ) are much appreciated.
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« on: December 21, 2009, 12:01:16 PM »
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Well, not so much info on these Württemberg Dukes and Duchesses. Any facts and images (esp. on Duchess Wilhelmine (1844-92) ) are much appreciated.

Not so much info? Are you joking? Such a well aranged topic about nearly unknown branch of Wurttemberg family! It´s great starting platform Smiley) for other...
unfortunately I have no more photos for the beginning, only small remark - I´ve read that Alexandrine (1829-1913) became a nun.
And I  propose to exted the topic to a mother of Wilhelm (1788–1857), Luise Stolberg-Gedern (1764-1834), widow of Karl Sachsen-Meiningen. I´ve never seen picture of her.
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« on: December 21, 2009, 10:58:00 PM »
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Well, not so much info on these Württemberg Dukes and Duchesses. Any facts and images (esp. on Duchess Wilhelmine (1844-92) ) are much appreciated.

Not so much info? Are you joking? Such a well aranged topic about nearly unknown branch of Wurttemberg family! It´s great starting platform Smiley) for other...
unfortunately I have no more photos for the beginning, only small remark - I´ve read that Alexandrine (1829-1913) became a nun.
And I  propose to exted the topic to a mother of Wilhelm (1788–1857), Luise Stolberg-Gedern (1764-1834), widow of Karl Sachsen-Meiningen. I´ve never seen picture of her.

I am not joking : ). I posted just a bit of info, as you can see only few pictures and a little about the bio of those Dukes and Duchesses. The most known people among them are Duke Eugen (1788-1857) and GDss Vera Konstantinovna, spouse of his grandson.

Thanks for info on Alexandrine. As for Luise Stolberg-Gedern I think we should ask our Marc who has a lot of Royal portraits ; )
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« on: December 24, 2009, 10:11:49 PM »
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I would like to help so much...I love this kind of research work about lesser known royals...as you know I also love seeing and posting portraits.Here is a very small portrait of Luise von Stolberg-Gedern.This is unfortunately the only one I found Sad



P.S.Maybe this is for pm but Svetabel,I still remember when I first joined this forum 3 or 4 years ago you were one of the few who posted some portraits I wanted to see of Russian royals...and still very informative about my questions on other boards Wink

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« on: December 24, 2009, 10:53:26 PM »
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I would just like to add that Eugen's brother Prince Paul von Württemberg(1797-1860),son of Prince Eugen von Württemberg and above mentioned Princess Luise von Stolberg-Gedern was a great traveler and a natural scientist.As a young boy he received military education but dedicated himself later in life to particularly mathematical and also scientific studies.From 1815 he entered the Prussian army with the rank captain of the guard.In october 1822 he undertook a journey to North America, where he particularly fully researched river basins Mississippi and Missouri.

In 1824 he returned to Europe.After his dismissal from Prussian services he was partly in Württemberg, partly in Schlesien.In 1827 he married Princess Sophie von Thurn und Taxis and chose Bad Mergentheim as a place to live.As he was not a man who could be in one place all the time he decided to plan his next adventure,so in 1829 he began a second journey to America and now particularly selected Mexico and the southern states of the North American union for his research.Later,form 1839-1840 he took part in the expedition to Egypt in order to study the waters of the Nile.

From 1849 to 1856 he visited for the third time America,but this time the west states of the union and almost completely South America, Canada, and Florida. Already at the end of of 1857 when he fully researched almost everything from New Orleans to the countries of southern Mississippi,he went then to Australia and returned over Ceylon and Egypt to Germany.

He died in Bad Mergentheim in 1860 leaving,just one son and the only child by his wife Princess Sophie,Prince Maximilian von Württemberg(1818-1888) who in 1876 married at Schloss Bückeburg Princess Hermine zu Schaumburg-Lippe(1845-1930)
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« on: December 24, 2009, 11:22:36 PM »
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Marc, thanks so much for Luise's portrait,no matter that's small but anyway a rare one ; )

Info on Prince Paul is really fascinating,much appreciate your help. Thanks again.
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« on: December 25, 2009, 03:40:05 AM »
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Thanks Marc, for the portrait, it´s very nice!
I´ve read that Paul and Sophia were divorced n 1835, is that right? Could his expeditions and adventures be a reason for it?
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« on: December 25, 2009, 04:09:15 AM »
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I´ve read that Paul and Sophia were divorced n 1835, is that right? Could his expeditions and adventures be a reason for it?

All on-line sources, incl. thepeerage.com, say about the couple's divorce in 1835. Also Paul had 2 illegetimate daughters from 2 different women.
His wife had very good family connections, as her mother was Theresa of Mecklenburg-Strelitz, sister of Queen Luise of Prussia.
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« on: December 25, 2009, 06:02:02 AM »
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I forgot to mention a divorce,but didn't know for this illegitimate issue...thanks!
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« on: December 30, 2009, 03:55:45 PM »
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I suppose you know this portrait of Helene Württemberg, born Hohenlohe-Langenburg (1807-80):
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« on: January 07, 2010, 04:53:57 PM »
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If you search for "Herzogin Nikolaus von Wuerttemberg" in Google Books, you will find a link for the following book:

Das herzogliche Haus Württemberg zu Carlsruhe in Schlesien by Friedrich Carl Esbach. 

Here below is the direct link to the book from my search:
http://books.google.com/books?id=FNxWAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA135&dq=%22Herzogin+Nikolaus+von+Wuerttemberg%22&cd=1#v=onepage&q=&f=false

If you click on the link, pg. 135 shows a photograph labeled "Wilhelmine Eugenia, Herzogin Nikolaus von Wuerttemberg (1844-1892)."  On pg. 133, there appears to be a photograph of the Duke and Duchess as well. 

I hope this helps.
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« on: January 08, 2010, 02:43:21 AM »
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If you search for "Herzogin Nikolaus von Wuerttemberg" in Google Books, you will find a link for the following book:

Das herzogliche Haus Württemberg zu Carlsruhe in Schlesien by Friedrich Carl Esbach.  

Here below is the direct link to the book from my search:
http://books.google.com/books?id=FNxWAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA135&dq=%22Herzogin+Nikolaus+von+Wuerttemberg%22&cd=1#v=onepage&q=&f=false

If you click on the link, pg. 135 shows a photograph labeled "Wilhelmine Eugenia, Herzogin Nikolaus von Wuerttemberg (1844-1892)."  On pg. 133, there appears to be a photograph of the Duke and Duchess as well.  

I hope this helps.


Thanks for the link, I've seen this edition in the Google books, just yesterday managed to look through the pages. The photo of Wilhelmine is small and blurry but anyway now I can see how she looked. :  )
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