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Re: Grand Duke Konstantin (KR) and his family- discussion and pictures, Part II
« Reply #240 on: February 01, 2015, 02:28:36 AM »
Группа офицеров лейб-гвардии Измайловского полка и петербургских артисток в театральных костюмах любительского спектакля "Измайловские досуги". Среди группы - великий князь Константин Константинович. Фотограф К. А. Фишер



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« Reply #241 on: February 01, 2015, 05:04:50 AM »
Группа офицеров лейб-гвардии Измайловского полка и петербургских артисток в театральных костюмах любительского спектакля "Измайловские досуги". Среди группы - великий князь Константин Константинович. Фотограф К. А. Фишер



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The officers of Izmailovskiy Regiment and GD Konstantin K. among them, with actresesses of StPetersburg theaters. One of amateur plays of "Izmailovskie Dosugi"

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Re: Grand Duke Konstantin (KR) and his family- discussion and pictures, Part II
« Reply #242 on: February 02, 2015, 09:39:50 AM »
Of course, I am sorry :o)

Wrongly labeled as "Grand Duke" in the description - Prince Gavril in 1943



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Re: Grand Duke Konstantin (KR) and his family- discussion and pictures, Part II
« Reply #243 on: February 02, 2015, 09:52:32 AM »
Now this is an interesting picture!

Grand Duke Konstantin with his elder brother, the infamous Nicholas Konstantinovich and an unidentified lady



I did not know the brothers met after Nicholas was exiled!

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Re: Grand Duke Konstantin (KR) and his family- discussion and pictures, Part II
« Reply #244 on: February 02, 2015, 10:23:32 AM »
Now this is an interesting picture!

Grand Duke Konstantin with his elder brother, the infamous Nicholas Konstantinovich and an unidentified lady


I did not know the brothers met after Nicholas was exiled!

The image belongs to the Royal COllection Trust.

They did met several times  after Nicholas' exile. The woman looks like Nadezhda Dreyer, morganatic wife of Nicholas.

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Re: Grand Duke Konstantin (KR) and his family- discussion and pictures, Part II
« Reply #245 on: February 02, 2015, 01:13:51 PM »
Yes they did meet several times in Tashkent and the lady is Nadezda von Dryer his only lawful wife. As you know I worte a book FANNY LEAR LOVE AND SCANDAL IN TSARIST RUSSIA, about GD Nicholas K and Fanny Lear. This is fantastic and I am so glad you posted this photographs, it means a lot for me, I researched so much about his life and I went to Uzbekistan to see his palace. What intrigues me is where was it taken, probably in his palace in Tashkent. Thanks a lot for posting this. If you ever find more photographs of him in exile I would love to see them.

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« Reply #246 on: February 06, 2015, 02:57:16 AM »
Amelia, I must admit this is the first time I am hearing about your book, but it definitely sounds interesting! I am very much interested in Konstantinovichi branch of the Romanov family, so I will note the title down and hopefully will come across it sometime in the future!

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Re: Grand Duke Konstantin (KR) and his family- discussion and pictures, Part II
« Reply #247 on: February 06, 2015, 04:54:33 AM »
Amelia

Did you manage to find out very much about Nadezhda's antecendents? I ask because I had a great friend (now dead) named Christopher Dreyer, one of a famous Royal Navy family descended from a Danish astronomer who settled in Britain in the 1870s. Was Nadezhda's family originally Danish?

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« Reply #248 on: February 06, 2015, 05:29:15 AM »
Ann,
I did not find out much about Nadezda, except that she was from Orenburg. She could have been a descendt from Danish - as per her name. Catherine the Great brough Germans/Europeans to populate that area, as did GD Nicholas K (the angry steps). So it is very possible that she could have been Danish.

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Re: Grand Duke Konstantin (KR) and his family- discussion and pictures, Part II
« Reply #249 on: February 06, 2015, 05:30:55 AM »
Ally,

My book was published in 2012. It contains the translation of Fanny Lear's memoirs. Also, my husband and I went to Uzbekistan and found out veyr interestingi  information about the GD in exile.


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Re: Grand Duke Konstantin (KR) and his family- discussion and pictures, Part II
« Reply #250 on: February 06, 2015, 07:23:34 AM »
Ann,
I did not find out much about Nadezda, except that she was from Orenburg. She could have been a descendt from Danish - as per her name. Catherine the Great brough Germans/Europeans to populate that area, as did GD Nicholas K (the angry steps). So it is very possible that she could have been Danish.

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Nadezhda Dreyer's father, Chief of Police in Orenburg, was called Alexander Gustavovich (von) Dreyer and her mother Sophia Ivanovna Opanovskaya, according to the Russian Wikipedia. From this database of foreigners in pre-Revolutionary Russia we see that her father was a Baltic German. This is her grandfather Gustav von Dreyer, apparantly an auditor and estate owner in the Narva area.

The name of the estate, Slepow Koniec, seems elusive, though. It's probably not in Estonia, as it doesn't sound like (Germanized or Russified) Estonian at all. In Russian Слепов конец means something like End of the Blind.

BTW Dreyer is a not uncommon name in both Scandinavia and in Low German-speaking areas and means "turner".
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Как речь безмолвная могилы,
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Re: Grand Duke Konstantin (KR) and his family- discussion and pictures, Part II
« Reply #251 on: February 06, 2015, 08:30:53 AM »
The name of the estate, Slepow Koniec, seems elusive, though. It's probably not in Estonia, as it doesn't sound like (Germanized or Russified) Estonian at all. In Russian Слепов конец means something like End of the Blind.

It's in the St. Petersburg Governate. The family name is sometimes spelled Dreher (High German form of Low German Dreyer).
Берёзы севера мне милы,
Их грустный, опущённый вид,
Как речь безмолвная могилы,
Горячку сердца холодит.

(Афанасий Фет: Ивы и берёзы, 1843 / 1856)

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Re: Grand Duke Konstantin (KR) and his family- discussion and pictures, Part II
« Reply #252 on: February 06, 2015, 09:18:00 AM »
The name of the estate, Slepow Koniec, seems elusive, though. It's probably not in Estonia, as it doesn't sound like (Germanized or Russified) Estonian at all. In Russian Слепов конец means something like End of the Blind.

It's in the St. Petersburg Governate.

Other spellings are Slepov-Konez.
Берёзы севера мне милы,
Их грустный, опущённый вид,
Как речь безмолвная могилы,
Горячку сердца холодит.

(Афанасий Фет: Ивы и берёзы, 1843 / 1856)

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Re: Grand Duke Konstantin (KR) and his family- discussion and pictures, Part II
« Reply #253 on: February 07, 2015, 02:00:45 PM »
I am putting only a link in case anyone is sensitive when it comes to these images: Post mortem photo of Princess Natalia Konstantinovna, the second-to-last child of KR and Elizaveta Mavrikievna, who died at only 2 months of age in 1905

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« Reply #254 on: February 08, 2015, 02:18:26 AM »
Thanks for the info about the Dreyer's. Christopher Dreyer's family were quite prominent in Denmark, as the astronomer's father commanded the Danish army in the 1864 war. Christopher was in touch with a cousin who was a lady-in-waiting to Queen Ingrid.

Ann