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Offline Mike Blake

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Re: Amur Cossack Uniforms
« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2010, 09:06:29 AM »
This is all very fascinating, but I must confess I am confused. What I asked was 'Did the Amur wear the cherkessa and beshmet in any order of dress?' Is it me getting the terms confused, please? I have to look up which is what everytime - have I used the wrong terminology? If so I apologise, but would ask that one of the experts explain, in simple terms, what the answere to my original question is, please.
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Re: Amur Cossack Uniforms
« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2010, 09:40:22 AM »
Well, for the time being you've read (or at least seen) a beautiful poem by Lermontov, haven't you?
No, Amur cossacks didn't wear cherkeskas or beshmets. They wore chekmens (kaftans) and later gimnasterkas, like all other cossacks except Kuban and Terek.

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« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2010, 03:05:24 AM »
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« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2010, 04:58:21 AM »
Fascinating though this all is, still no one has commented on the 'unique' fur hat of the Amur cossacks. Why did they alone  have this?

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Re: Amur Cossack Uniforms
« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2010, 09:58:57 AM »
They did not. Such long fur hats - "Manchurian papakhas" - were worn by all Siberian cossack hosts: Transbaikal, Amur and Ussuri, as well as by some other Cossack units.

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Re: Amur Cossack Uniforms
« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2010, 12:18:34 PM »
Thanks Mike - you are always there it seems! ;-)

I am really confused now, as I have only ever seen illustrations of the Amur cossacks in the fur hat I meant as 'unique'? It has a completely different shape to the papakhas usually shown. It has a domed cloth crown, with a relatively low but much wider fur lower portion. It is shown in an illustration in a plate in the New York Public  Library Vinkhuijhzen collection (I can't work out how to post it here). I have never seen any other of the Cossacks illustrated wearing it. http://digitalgallery.nypl.org/nypldigital/dgkeysearchdetail.cfm?trg=1&strucID=286276&imageID=443725&total=39&num=20&parent_id=286200&word=&s=&notword=&d=&c=&f=&k=0&sScope=&sLevel=&sLabel=&lword=&lfield=&imgs=20&pos=37

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