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Re: Olga and Anastasia
« Reply #30 on: September 17, 2010, 07:45:09 AM »
Olga is again standing next to her beloved Pavel Voronov
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« Reply #31 on: September 17, 2010, 11:13:19 PM »
Yes. You're right. It's Sabline. I've never seen those photos before for I didn't read Sablin's book. Of curse Pavel Voronov was always there and can't be mistaken with any other men... :)

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« Reply #32 on: September 18, 2010, 01:05:41 AM »
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See that modest yet very happy smile ; ) Her eyes speak much about her happiness : )
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Dearie Annie, thank you so much for those photos! It’s very rare for many of us here : ))
My pleasure!  Here's another:  Olga and Imp next to each other 1907




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« Reply #33 on: September 18, 2010, 05:25:07 AM »
Olga with Imp and  Standart officers ( note Paul right next to her. ) Then the Imp scoots out of the picture...looks like 1912

 


blessOTMA, thanks for posting here these photos. Some of these brave officers are need to be mentioned.

My friendly five cents;).

Interesting, that on one photo we can see simply the main part of the 2nd Guard's Infantry Battalion officers (we can see Semenov-Tjan Shansky, Voronov, Rodionov and Kozhevnikov), who all started there bravely fought in WWI being in a part of 2nd Guard's Infantry Battalion. All of them later experienced all the WWI and terrible Civil War. Some survived, like Rodionov and Tjan-Shansky, but some, like Butakov and Babitsin couldn't have stand these tragic Russian times and were killed. Interesting also that all these people being a wealthy men with money and great positions in society (connections with IF), all went to war...

Btw, as to the N. V. Sablin on the second photo (1880-1962). His destiny is even far more tragic. He stayed in the USSR, suffered from different repressions. Then fled to Romania, where he was the chief editor in anti-soviet newspaper. He also posted a lot of materials to different emigre naval magazines, where he mentioned all the bright times of his Standart service. But in 1945 he was arrested by "SMERSH" (Soviet equivalent to "Gestapo") and received 20 years of punishment. Then (in 1954) was transferred to Romania, where he was arrested again and died in Romanian prison.
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Re: Olga and Anastasia
« Reply #34 on: September 18, 2010, 09:35:35 AM »


Interesting that the elder GDss are in light-colored middy blouses, while the Little Pair's are dark. I always thought the color of the children's sailor suits was determined by the season, not whims of fashion.
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« Reply #35 on: September 19, 2010, 08:27:54 PM »
Another scan from N.V. Sabline's  "Ten years aboard the imperial yacht Standart"  More officers with the family




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Re: Olga and Anastasia
« Reply #36 on: September 19, 2010, 08:41:28 PM »
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Interesting that the elder GDss are in light-colored middy blouses, while the Little Pair's are dark. I always thought the color of the children's sailor suits was determined by the season, not whims of fashion.
That's an interesting point. It may have been about the time the two pairs  started dressing differently  from each other ...seems to me all four were  dressed alike when younger . 

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Re: Olga and Anastasia
« Reply #37 on: September 20, 2010, 10:33:33 AM »
Another scan from N.V. Sabline's  "Ten years aboard the imperial yacht Standart"  More officers with the family




blessOTMA, thank you very much for this photo.

Sorry for asking, but do you have it in a more higher resolution? Or maybe someone else have it? Very need it now;).
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Re: Olga and Anastasia
« Reply #38 on: September 20, 2010, 01:13:59 PM »
The photo is new to me -- thank you. It comes from 1910, and shows the IF with their suite during the picnic. Do I see Dr. Botkin on the far right, upper row? (With beard and mustache).
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« Reply #39 on: September 20, 2010, 01:25:51 PM »
I can see Butakov, N. N. Rodionov, N. V. Sabline, N. P. Sabline (sitting, on the right side), perhaps Silaev.

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Re: Olga and Anastasia
« Reply #40 on: September 20, 2010, 01:33:10 PM »
The photo is new to me -- thank you. It comes from 1910, and shows the IF with their suite during the picnic. Do I see Dr. Botkin on the far right, upper row? (With beard and mustache).
  Quite possibly nena, I looked at the book just now ...But it  could  also be that general I'm always confusing him with too. The gentlemen who is in that photo , dragging Marie and Anastasia in a wagon in the garden...( AN is making a face) I think you are correct ...But I will make  this photo larger this evening so the uniform and be seen by those who know. I know it's Trina behind Alix in the hat with the black bow  and next to her is that small lady who is often in the family photos from this time...

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Re: Olga and Anastasia
« Reply #41 on: September 20, 2010, 01:45:17 PM »
I can see Butakov, N. N. Rodionov, N. V. Sabline, N. P. Sabline (sitting, on the right side), perhaps Silaev.
Good lord, no wonder I am always confused . N. V. Sabline AND N. P. Sabline? Now I will really embarrass myself...were they related? I thought there was only one Sabline  and yet I kept seeing these two men being called by this name....this is nothing new. For  years I thought there were two composers...one called Chopin, as you would normally  say  the name and another called,  " Chop-in"  ...no really . And yes the two Sablines  are there :) One behind the Tsar and the other at right sitting down as you say  :)

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« Reply #42 on: September 20, 2010, 03:16:15 PM »
There were two Sabline's in IF's suite. One of them was named Nicholas Pavlovich Sabline, and he was Russian Navy officer, and later adjutant,  who died in Paris in 1937.



(N. P. Sabline is on the far left)

However, the another Nicholas Vassilievich Sabline was captain of the 2nd rank, and died in Romania in 1962. He wrote his memories 'Ten years aboard the imperial yacht Standart'. But, according to the Russian sites, both of them were born in 1880. I don't know if they were related.

'Everything went bad ... There was a sad and tragic time ... ' -- N.V. Sabline.


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« Reply #43 on: September 20, 2010, 10:35:10 PM »
I think they were not related, how strange that it seems. In Olga's diary Nik. Vas. is "Sablin" and Nik. Pav. is "N.P".
There was in fact a third Sabline, Nikolay Pavlovich's brother.
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Re: Olga and Anastasia
« Reply #44 on: September 20, 2010, 11:25:25 PM »
matushka , perhaps Olga did that to keep them straight herself! lol! I think it's amazing there were two...and even more they are not related? Is it a common name in Russia? I often hear  Sabline let the family down when the revolution came...which one do people mean?

As promised : bigger version of the 1910  picnic.  Thses photos are printed rather small , let me know if they are big enough.
 nena, I believe that gentleman standing on the right  is the general who sometime fools me into thinking  he's Dr. Botkin
Also more pics!  :) and one of Alix and her girls to keep us on topic!   All from this book . Enjoy




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