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Re: Tatiana Photographs III
« Reply #600 on: February 11, 2015, 04:51:17 AM »
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« Reply #601 on: February 11, 2015, 06:51:12 AM »
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Re: Tatiana Photographs III
« Reply #602 on: February 11, 2015, 03:41:28 PM »
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« Reply #603 on: February 12, 2015, 11:26:16 AM »
Never seen this one before.

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« Reply #604 on: February 12, 2015, 12:55:43 PM »
Trying to, Tim! ;-)

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The grand duchess in this photo looks too small to be Tatiana--I'd say it's Marie.

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« Reply #605 on: February 12, 2015, 01:07:54 PM »
The original caption on the RCT website was "Marie", but I disagree. One look in the face and I am 100% positive this is Tatiana. (furthermore RCT often gets the descriptions wrong - they even managed to identify Marie Fyodorovna and Queen Alexandra as Xenia and Victoria!). I donīt think she is too small either. First of all she is leaning back, second of all here is a comparisn photo from the same day:



Alexei and Tatiana have the same height difference in both pictures.

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« Reply #606 on: February 12, 2015, 03:08:38 PM »
That is definitely Tatiana. There was a similar picture from this day with Maria and Anastasia.
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« Reply #607 on: February 12, 2015, 10:22:34 PM »
The original caption on the RCT website was "Marie", but I disagree. One look in the face and I am 100% positive this is Tatiana. (furthermore RCT often gets the descriptions wrong - they even managed to identify Marie Fyodorovna and Queen Alexandra as Xenia and Victoria!). I donīt think she is too small either. First of all she is leaning back, second of all here is a comparisn photo from the same day:



Alexei and Tatiana have the same height difference in both pictures.


I rarely rely on such captions since they're almost always wrong. I was going simply on appearances.

As for the height difference in the two photos, they're actually not the same. In the photo in question, Alexei is bending forward slightly, making him appear shorter. In the other, he is standing straight. If he *were* standing straight in the first one, he would come up too high up on her chest for it to be Tatiana. Also, you can see that Alexei's hands reach the hem of the girl's dress. The same is true with Alexei and Marie in the photo below. Tatiana's hem, by comparison, is considerably lower. In my opinion, it is Marie.



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Re: Tatiana Photographs III
« Reply #608 on: February 13, 2015, 11:49:47 AM »
But the girl too is bended in the first picture, not just Alexei.

Well, Iīm afraid we will have to disagree on this one. The face is clearly Tatiana to me.

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Re: Tatiana Photographs III
« Reply #609 on: February 13, 2015, 12:41:04 PM »
Trying to, Tim! ;-)

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The grand duchess in this photo looks too small to be Tatiana--I'd say it's Marie.

It looks like someone is standing between the Grand Duchess and the woman next to her. I think i see a feather and part of a sleeve. Anastasia perhaps?
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Re: Tatiana Photographs III
« Reply #610 on: February 13, 2015, 03:57:48 PM »
Could Aleksei be standing on something? It looks to me like his legs would be disproportionately long if they actually reached the deck.
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« Reply #611 on: February 13, 2015, 06:00:10 PM »
It's hard to tell.
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Re: Tatiana Photographs III
« Reply #612 on: February 14, 2015, 01:32:30 AM »
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« Reply #613 on: February 14, 2015, 10:13:56 AM »
Evpatoria again



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Re: Tatiana Photographs III
« Reply #614 on: February 14, 2015, 02:54:24 PM »
But the girl too is bended in the first picture, not just Alexei.

Well, Iīm afraid we will have to disagree on this one. The face is clearly Tatiana to me.

I agree.  The sharp facial features, as well as the way she's holding her hand, makes me lean toward Tatiana.