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Re: Theories About the Survial of the Imperial Family ... What if?
« Reply #165 on: January 10, 2005, 11:24:40 AM »
I think from reading RTC and other books on the subject that the children, Olga, Tatiana, Anastasia and Alexie while in Tobolsk were rescued.  The rest were murdered in Ekaterinburg.  The rescue plot to save the Tsar did in fact fail.  The children knowing what had happened to  their parents and other members of the IF would not have wanted to be identified for fear of their own lives being threatened.

RTC indicates somewhere south. I think that might be very true as there were family members that did in fact go to France and Italy.



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Re: Theories About the Survial of the Imperial Family ... What if?
« Reply #166 on: January 10, 2005, 11:29:57 AM »
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RTC is a dubious source of information. I would suggest that you examine other works for more reliable evidence.
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Re: Theories About the Survial of the Imperial Family ... What if?
« Reply #167 on: January 10, 2005, 11:42:35 AM »
rskkiya, I have read many books as you know.  I have quoted them to you many times before.  I think RTC is a very credible Diary.  I don't think it should be discredited at all.  In my opinion it is very interesting and a lot of information mentioned in the Diary has been repeated in other books on the same subject. I don't think RTC as a dubious read at all. RTC was published  in 1920 long before any book on the subject was printed.

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Re: Theories About the Survial of the Imperial Family ... What if?
« Reply #168 on: January 10, 2005, 01:18:58 PM »
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RTC is a dubious source of information. I would suggest that you examine other works for more reliable evidence.
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Dear rskkiya and Candice,

This is a fascinating subject.  I have posed questions regarding Rescuing the Csar to the FA and have not received an answer.  I would like to ask that you both examine what I asked the FA on "grabbing for straws" and I am interested in hearing your responses.

Thank you if you choose to do so.  And rskkiya I shall offer prayers for your friend.  

All best,

Patrick

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Re: Theories About the Survial of the Imperial Family ... What if?
« Reply #169 on: February 16, 2005, 10:56:10 AM »
According to the Shay book "Rescuing the Czar, etc.  some very strange stories were circulated, among the most significant, in my eyes, is that according to which the Czar and family (?) were evacuated towards the East, through Turkestan, Tibet, China and eventually taking residence in Ceylon! This with the help of American, British, and French agents and the cooperation of the Chinese and Japanese governments.  There might be reason to believe that many highly placed individuals and governments around the world believed this story.  It is a poetic rendering and the work of a master symbolist who was interested in defending the honor of the monarchy of Cousin Georgy.  My belief is that this was manufactured by a very sophisticated Western Russian expert(s), read Western Agent(s) who had worked in Russia and were not Bolchevik.  However, the story must contains elements of truth and does tell how very interested Western governments were in saving the Imperial family if only for there own selfish reasons.  Also, I think it very important to note that Pres. Wilson may have had time before his ruin to have deeply felt his own culpability in throwing the Imperial regime to the dogs, especially when the Romanovs had done so much to help us in our Civil War.  
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Re: Theories About the Survial of the Imperial Family ... What if?
« Reply #170 on: February 18, 2005, 04:56:47 PM »
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According to the Shay book "Rescuing the Czar, etc.  some very strange stories were circulated, among the most significant, in my eyes, is that according to which the Czar and family (?) were evacuated towards the East, through Turkestan, Tibet, China and eventually taking residence in Ceylon! This with the help of American, British, and French agents and the cooperation of the Chinese and Japanese governments.  There might be reason to believe that many highly placed individuals and governments around the world believed this story.  It is a poetic rendering and the work of a master symbolist who was interested in defending the honor of the monarchy of Cousin Georgy.  My belief is that this was manufactured by a very sophisticated Western Russian expert(s), read Western Agent(s) who had worked in Russia and were not Bolchevik.  However, the story must contains elements of truth and does tell how very interested Western governments were in saving the Imperial family if only for there own selfish reasons.  Also, I think it very important to note that Pres. Wilson may have had time before his ruin to have deeply felt his own culpability in throwing the Imperial regime to the dogs, especially when the Romanovs had done so much to help us in our Civil War.  
Best wishes.            


Do not be so sure about the position Pres. Wilson held at this time.

I assume you are aware that we had American troops and ships in and near Russia at this time.

Also,  I think that many of the documents in our US files are just, now, starting to be available for us to see.

And, remember McNeal only suggested the possible escape as mentioned in the fictional book Rescuing the Czar because the author/authors seem to be well informed of what was happening at that time in those areas.

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