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Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
« Reply #135 on: December 01, 2011, 01:40:45 PM »
Serge was also a cold fish on the point of formality. Olga was a foreign Queen, a cousin (member of the Romanov Family) and most importantly the sister-in-law of the Tsar. As Olga was more beloved in the family, so I don't think either Alexander III or his wife would mind. If you want impolite or presumptuous, it would be more of Miechen (Grand Duchess Marie Paulovna the elder)'s style.  

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Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
« Reply #136 on: December 01, 2011, 02:08:39 PM »
Serge was also a cold fish on the point of formality. Olga was a foreign Queen, a cousin (member of the Romanov Family) and most importantly the sister-in-law of the Tsar. As Olga was more beloved in the family, so I don't think either Alexander III or his wife would mind.

The point is not that Sergei was a cold fish or a hot fish but he thought that it's not polite to disturb a gravely-ill man very often. Not only he observed Olga's and Alexandra Iosifovna's visits to Alexander III, also one of the doctors, a surgeon Weliaminov didn't like those disturbing visits even from the close relatives. The dying Emperor needed a rest and instead he got a mob of agitated women who persuaded him - a man who wanted  a peace and rest -  send for a priest whom he didn't like. Alexander III never liked if someone wanted to manipulate him - had he been well he'd never let to disturb him with cries 'let's Father Ioann come here'. I think Sergei felt all this, and the case was not only in the formality.

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Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
« Reply #137 on: December 01, 2011, 03:05:58 PM »
So very interesting, Svetabel! Thank you for sharing. I love insights into family dynamics.  :)
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Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
« Reply #138 on: December 02, 2011, 04:46:38 AM »
So very interesting, Svetabel! Thank you for sharing. I love insights into family dynamics.  :)

Oh, those sad days in Livadia are worth a drama movie actually. So many interesting persons, feelings... and the Tzar whose death was a catastrophe not only for his family but for the whole Russia.

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Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
« Reply #139 on: December 02, 2011, 05:18:54 AM »
Close up - one of my fave photo of Queen Olga


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Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
« Reply #140 on: December 05, 2011, 01:28:22 PM »
Queen Olga with her husband,daughter Marie, Alexandra of Wales and her 2 daughters. 1892 year.


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« Reply #141 on: December 05, 2011, 04:55:39 PM »
Yes. Victoria ("Toria") & Maud ("Harry"). Louise must be married and Alexandra of Greece had died the year before.

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Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
« Reply #142 on: January 17, 2012, 05:26:42 AM »
Queen Olga


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Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
« Reply #143 on: January 17, 2012, 05:28:58 AM »
King George and his children Nicolaos, Alexandra, Marie and Andrea. Corfu, 1888.


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Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
« Reply #144 on: January 18, 2012, 09:51:19 PM »
I was wondering why Queen Olga got married so young?  Was it a love match? 

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« Reply #145 on: January 19, 2012, 01:53:22 AM »
I was wondering why Queen Olga got married so young?  Was it a love match? 
Very much so....Love at first sight !.George went tp Russia to see his sister and  fell for Olga.

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Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
« Reply #146 on: January 20, 2012, 11:54:03 AM »
She also fit his requirements of an Orthodox bride very well. Since he was not Orthodox but ruling over a country that was, it was a major consideration. There weren't too many eligible princesses around. George got very lucky with Olga in terms of their compatability and her disposition.
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« Reply #147 on: January 20, 2012, 04:19:24 PM »
Glad to hear that it was a love match!  She was 16 when she married?  It seems so young---I wonder what affect marrying young had on her for the rest of her life?

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Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
« Reply #148 on: January 21, 2012, 02:11:18 PM »
She wasn't too sophisticated or an intellectual like her brother KK.

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Re: King George I & Queen Olga (nee Romanov) of Greece, Part II
« Reply #149 on: February 04, 2012, 11:50:40 PM »
She also fit his requirements of an Orthodox bride very well. Since he was not Orthodox but ruling over a country that was, it was a major consideration. There weren't too many eligible princesses around. George got very lucky with Olga in terms of their compatability and her disposition.

My present comment would have made more sense in Part I of this thread, but that is now a stickey and locked.

In Part I the cemetery at the Greek summer palace of Tatoi comes up several times, such as here:
http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php?topic=1278.msg29899#msg29899

I thought that you might be interested to read what Princess Vera Constantinovna wrote to us about her visit to Tatoi.

In her letter dated March 21 / April 5, 1986, she wrote:

"...Какъ мнѢ нравится Грецiя. Была тамъ разъ, съ паломниками послѢ Пасхи въ ІерусалимѢ. Во время полковниковъ. Устроила поѢздку въ Татой и вспомнила тетю Ольгу сестру моего отца, королеву Еллиновъ. Мы ее любили какъ родную мать, святая была.
Помню разговоръ съ ней. Она сказала, что понимаетъ, что я люблю Россию, которую помню, но как я люблю флотъ не понимаетъ, т. е., Русский Флотъ ибо его не знаю... Да, все морское моё атавизмъ отъ дѢда, Константина Николаевича..."

(English:)

"Oh how much I like Greece. I was there one time, with the pilgrims after Pascha in Jerusalem. During the time of the 'Colonels' [the Junta]. I arranged a trip to Tatoi and I remembered my Aunt Olga, my father's sister, the Queen of the Hellenes. We loved her like our very own mother; she was a saint.
I recall a conversation with her. She said that she could understand that I love Russia, which I can remember, but how I love the Navy she does not understand, i.e., the Russian Navy, because I do not know it... Yes, everything naval is 'mine' an atavism from my grandfather, Constantine Nicholaevich."
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