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Offline Maximilian

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H.H. Princes Chavchavadze
« on: December 12, 2005, 02:53:57 PM »
Does any one have the genealogy of the Princes Chavchavadze, what is their history, what was their royal status in Russia and their origins? I know That H.H.Princess Nina of Russia married a H.H. Prince Paul Chavchavadze but I will like to have more information regarding the all Chavchavadze family.
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Re: H.H. Princes Chavchavadze
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2005, 02:21:53 PM »
Prince Paul wrote a book in the (1960's?)called "A Family Album".His son David wrote a autobiography called something like "Trenchcoats and Princes".Both have a good deal of info on the family in pre-revolutionary Russia.

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Re: H.H. Princes Chavchavadze
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2006, 02:55:05 PM »
"what was their royal status".

Ha-ha-ha:)
Chavchavadze family don`t have any royal status in Russia and Georgia.
And in history too.

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Re: H.H. Princes Chavchavadze
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2006, 03:52:14 PM »
The Princes Chavchavadze were Princes of the Kingdom of Georgia and Princes of the Russian Empire. They had no imperial or royal style such as HIH, HH, HRH nor were the styled as Serene but rather as Illustrious.

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Re: H.H. Princes Chavchavadze
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2007, 08:14:05 PM »
Unless he recently died, a Prince David Chavchavadze lived in Washington, D.C. and attended functions of the Faberge Society etc. I met him once at an Easter ball.

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Re: H.H. Princes Chavchavadze
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2007, 01:35:11 PM »
I have such a tender regard for Princess Nina Chavchavadze and for her husband, Prince Paul Chavchavadze. 

I was in correspondence with the Princess for a short time but I lost my correspondence when I lent it to the NYC firm of  Speller & Sons Pub.s who never returned my letters.  I can still see Princess Nina's delft-blue stationary. 

The way we began to correspond started when I found a "society post-card" of her, her sister and Mother, the Grand Duchess George sitting in a corner of their St. Petersburg palace among a picture collection of Royalty in the NYC Public Library.  Having grown up with so many "society post cards" of my mother's family members I knew the value of such things as priceless momentos.  My mother would often pour over the society post cards of her grand mother and great grand mother and point out some elegant detail of their gowns or some wonderful information about the setting, so I knew how important they were to the appreciation and preservation of a family history. 

That fact, combined with the injustice of the revolution and the torn and fragmented lives it left in it wake, made me determined to get that postcard to Princess Nina.  I knew that she was living in South Wellfleet, Mass.  So as I sat there in the NYC Public Library with that postcard in my hand, it took all of my courage to carefully hide the postcard in my coat pocket and walk out of the library.  When I got home I mailed the postcard to Princess Nina.  I remember feeling that at last some some sense of justice had been done, however I never expected to hear from the Princess.  I was so thrilled when Princess Nina sent me the most gracious reply.  She said that in all of the chaos of the revolution and the fact that her mother and she and her sister had spent the war years in England, she ended up having no photograph of their palace in St. Petersburg and not only that but the photograph on the postcard was taken in her mother's favorite drawing room!  I felt such a sense of joy and would gladly have done my time in prison for breaking the law.  My theft started the short history of our correspondence.  The Princess told me so many intimate details of her parents unscathed relationship witht the Emperor and Empress and their family. 

Alas, as I have said, I lent my correspondence to the NYC publisher, Speller & Sons, and have never been able to retrieve it.  But that loss is so insignificant when one remembers the loss the Princess and her family sustained. 

I have always felt from my correspondence with the Princess that there was the most genuine sense of goodness and simplicity in Princess Nina character and that this was something that was shared by her husband.  I have a few of his books and he seems to have a wonderful sense of humor.  To me, Princess Nina had a lovely sense of refinement and gentleness and a equally wonderful sense of simplicity and grace. 

Anyway that is the impression I received whilst reading her letters.  Just to say, I believe that Princess Nina's husband passed rather recently.   Griff         
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Re: H.H. Princes Chavchavadze
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2007, 04:23:58 PM »
Unless he recently died, a Prince David Chavchavadze lived in Washington, D.C. and attended functions of the Faberge Society etc. I met him once at an Easter ball.
Prince David was the thice married only child of Princess Nina.

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Re: H.H. Princes Chavchavadze
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2007, 01:19:58 PM »
Approximately two years ago I got a chance to meet Prince David Chavchavadze's daughter Sasha in Wellfleet, MA.   She is a very gracious person and she had some very fond memories of her grandmother, Princess Nina to share.

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Re: H.H. Princes Chavchavadze
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2007, 10:55:23 AM »
Griffh,
Do you know where princess Nina's palace in Petersburg was located.  Did it belong to the  Chavchavadze family or Nina's?  I am always interested in where people resided in Petersburg.

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Re: H.H. Princes Chavchavadze
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2010, 10:57:44 PM »
Is there info on Chavchavadze family in Jacques Ferrand books?
or his
" Familles princières de Géorgie: essai de reconstitution généalogique (1880-1983) de 21 familles reconnues princières par l'Empire de Russie"
Thank you

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Re: H.H. Princes Chavchavadze
« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2010, 08:30:03 PM »
I was wondering how the family name is pronounced?  Thank you.

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Re: H.H. Princes Chavchavadze
« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2010, 12:51:48 PM »
Griffh,
Do you know where princess Nina's palace in Petersburg was located.  Did it belong to the  Chavchavadze family or Nina's?  I am always interested in where people resided in Petersburg.

BobG
Nina did not have a palace in St Petersburg.
She was just a child when her mother took her and her younger sister to England in 1914.
Orince Paul's maternal grandmother the Stroganov co heiress Madame Paul Rodzianko nee Princess Marie Galitzine lived on the very chic Sergeviskaya Street