Author Topic: Emperor Maximilian of Mexico & Empress Carlota (Charlotte of Belgium) ,Part II  (Read 40670 times)

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"...Пусть он землю бережет родную, А любовь Катюша сбережет....". Grand Duchess Ekaterina Fyodorovna to Grand Duke Georgiy Alexandrovich. 1914

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A good size version of this wonderful image. She was cute!



 

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"...Пусть он землю бережет родную, А любовь Катюша сбережет....". Grand Duchess Ekaterina Fyodorovna to Grand Duke Georgiy Alexandrovich. 1914

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A very young Charlotte


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I've always felt sorry for Maximilian.  He was basically a pawn of Napoleon III, who was trying to sneak a new French colony into North America.  NIII was doing an end run around the Monroe Doctrine (which President James Monroe of the U.S. enacted decades before, it basically told Europe to stay out the America's, the existing colonies, such as Canada, would be left alone, but no new ones allowed). However, at this time, the U.S. was in the middle of the Civil War, and could not enforce said Doctrine.  NIII wanted to turn Mexico into a de facto French colony with Maximilian as his puppet.  Of course, poor old Max was dumb enough to go along.  Had he told NIII to sod off, he might have enjoyed a ripe old age.
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The Cown of Mexico: Maximilian and his Empress Carlota

by Joan Haslip (1973)

steller book on this topic imo

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....NIII wanted to turn Mexico into a de facto French colony with Maximilian as his puppet.  Of course, poor old Max was dumb enough to go along.  Had he told NIII to sod off, he might have enjoyed a ripe old age.

He was quite naive I must say, he believed when the members of the Mexican Conservative Party showed him the false signatures that they got as request of Maximilian himself when he wanted to know if mexicans really wanted that he would rule them. But really he wasn't the main interested at the colonial adventure at Mexico but his wife Charlotte, she was the one who encouraged him more. I think that if she wasn't there Maximilian would not have accepted the offering of NIII.
I feel much sorrow also for the Empress, she  got what she wanted, she's still remembered by mexicans today but how high prize she had to pay for this!!!, 60 years of madness and the death of her husband.

...However, at this time, the U.S. was in the middle of the Civil War, and could not enforce said Doctrine...

There's no doubt, americans wouldn't have accepted that other nation would be taking the control of Latin America. That's why they offered their support to President Juárez at the end of the Civil war to make the French to leave Mexico, of course, the French-Prussian war was another reason that contributed to the fall of the Second Empire at Mexico.

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The Cown of Mexico: Maximilian and his Empress Carlota
by Joan Haslip (1973)
steller book on this topic imo

Do you know if this book is available online? It sounds interesting!!
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I'm rereading AGAIN
The Cown of Mexico: Maximilian and his Empress Carlota
by Joan Haslip (1973)
steller book on this topic imo
Do you know if this book is available online? It sounds interesting!!
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I don't know if it's online, but  it's  pretty inexpensive from Amazon as a used paperback . Can't prasie it enough =)

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Photographs of Emperor Maximilian of Mexico
« Reply #37 on: October 06, 2011, 12:39:59 AM »
Hi! I have a few questions about photographs of Emperor Maximilian of Mexico:

1) Are there photographs of him in the 1840s and early 1850s?
2) Is there any book with good photos of Maximilian?

Thank you all!

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1) Are there photographs of him in the 1840s and early 1850s?

I haven't seen none, only some paintings and drawings showing him in early age, the first photos that I've seen of him are of the late 1850's (like the one when he is portrayed with his brand-new wife Charlotte) I haven't seen none even of his brother Franz Joseph (who was more possible to being photographed at becoming Emperor after 1848) but only the same, paintings and drawings of him on his early years (even as Emperor). I doubt that there are... or perhaps some unknown ones :-?
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1) Are there photographs of him in the 1840s and early 1850s?

I haven't seen none, only some paintings and drawings showing him in early age, the first photos that I've seen of him are of the late 1850's (like the one when he is portrayed with his brand-new wife Charlotte) I haven't seen none even of his brother Franz Joseph (who was more possible to being photographed at becoming Emperor after 1848) but only the same, paintings and drawings of him on his early years (even as Emperor). I doubt that there are... or perhaps some unknown ones :-?

Odd. There certainly is photos of him in the late 1840s and 1850s but is quite probably that historians were lazy and didn't look after well enough. His Brazilian first cousin, Emperor Pedro II, has photos from the later 1840s as you can see in his article on Wikipedia.

Does anyone has the book "Ein Kaiser unterwegs"?

Lastly, is there any book about Maximilian with this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Emperor_maximilian_of_mexico.jpg ) photo ?

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i dont know but the one who took it was  François Aubert

Here another of the same photoshoot


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That's wonderful photo! I've never seen so old photo of him, when he was in his early twenties. If you have more old photos of Maximilian (or his brothers), please post them! I will be very grateful!

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That's wonderful photo! I've never seen so old photo of him, when he was in his early twenties. If you have more old photos of Maximilian (or his brothers), please post them! I will be very grateful!

I agree totally with you, I like that photo very much, he was quite young on it. If you find one of young Franz Joseph please post it (on his thread of course!)  :)
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"...Пусть он землю бережет родную, А любовь Катюша сбережет....". Grand Duchess Ekaterina Fyodorovna to Grand Duke Georgiy Alexandrovich. 1914

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