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Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
« on: October 16, 2010, 12:55:19 PM »
I dont know the exactly date but surely she was in her first years of marriage with Ferdinand.



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Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2010, 10:45:34 AM »
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Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2010, 10:50:59 AM »
That one is cute!! do you know the year those pictures were taken?

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Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2010, 01:56:14 PM »
Thanks Katenka!!
They were taken at Cotroceni Palace!! The year was 1893  : )

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Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2010, 10:18:36 AM »
Can anyone tell me who is the "Fräulein" Marie mentions in her biography who was living with them in Coburg and became very close to her mother?

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Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2010, 12:24:22 PM »
Do you mean her German governess ?

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Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2010, 08:41:16 PM »
I've read about this, but don't have the book at hand, and so if anyone can fill in the missing details....

There was a certain man that Marie wrote about, who was an advisor to her mother along the lines of a Sir John Conroy to Queen Victoria's mother.  This man married the Fraulein, who was (I think) a governess to Marie and her siblings.  This couple treated the children wonderfully in front of her mother, horribly when they were out of her sight.  The man saved his "best" for Marie's brother Alfred (who would die in 1899 after a botched suicide attempt).

It was only after the children involved their father, that the pair of reprehensibles were ousted from the household (after a long, bitter fight with Marie Alexandrovna).

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Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2010, 11:06:22 PM »
Can anyone tell me who is the "Fräulein" Marie mentions in her biography who was living with them in Coburg and became very close to her mother?

"Fräulein" was Esperanza von Truchsess von Weltzhausen, from impoverished junker family of a Prussian origin. She became a governess in 1887, and in 1889 married Alfred-junior's tutor, Dr.Rolfs. In 1893 both Rolfs and Esperanza left the Coburg court thanks to efforts of Duke Alfred. Actually it was Rolfs who was dismissed, his wife just followed him.

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Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2010, 10:24:54 AM »
Thank you for that...I started reading her memoirs and so far she mentions her only as "Fräulein"...at least that's how it's translated into my language!


She might have been a cousin of Bertha,Countess von Orttenburg,nee Truchsess von Wetzhausen,wife of morganatic scion of Ortenburg family that obtained the title of Count in 1830...
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Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2010, 11:08:38 AM »
Why was Dr. Rolfs dismissed and where did he go afterwards with his wife ?  :o

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Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2010, 09:39:15 PM »
Can anyone tell me who is the "Fräulein" Marie mentions in her biography who was living with them in Coburg and became very close to her mother?

"Fräulein" was Esperanza von Truchsess von Weltzhausen, from impoverished junker family of a Prussian origin. She became a governess in 1887, and in 1889 married Alfred-junior's tutor, Dr.Rolfs. In 1893 both Rolfs and Esperanza left the Coburg court thanks to efforts of Duke Alfred. Actually it was Rolfs who was dismissed, his wife just followed him.

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Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2010, 12:33:14 AM »
Why was Dr. Rolfs dismissed and where did he go afterwards with his wife ?  :o

Eric...sometimes you really astound me. Never read Queen Marie's memoirs or heard anything about Alfred-junior's suffering becouse of harsh Dr.Rolfs aka Dr. X in Marie's memoirs?

I don't know where Rolfs-Truchsess went after his dismissal but the reasons were quite clear - he did more bad than good in Alfred's education. Duchess Marie adored Rolfs' scholar ways, but others in the family hated him.

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Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2010, 09:32:44 AM »
Well Marie Coburg could be blind to those she trusted.

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Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2010, 07:36:08 AM »
 Today 29 October is Missy's Birthday...happy birhday !!!!!!!!!
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Re: Queen Maria of Romania, Part 3
« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2010, 02:48:33 PM »
Happy Birthday, Marie!!!

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