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Re: Queen Marie Antoinette, Part II
« Reply #120 on: June 12, 2012, 03:05:28 AM »
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she was still dreaming of her nephew in Vienna invading France and putting to death many Frenchmen to restore her and Louis as absolute monarchs.

But if she was still believing the Austrians would help restore the monarchy, she must have thought she had options, however much people in the clearer light of the present time might think these were far-fetched.  She had actually stared down a mob who had not harmed her, however shocked and frightened she might have been, and may have thought that if she survived that the danger wasn't so terrible - not realising that a lynch mob wasn't the greatest threat.  Certainly Antonia Fraser's biography suggests that it wasn't until rather later, when the king was executed, that she went into an almost catatonic state of shock, suggesting that up till that point she may have some inner hopes that the royal family might be saved.  The one who more clearly seemed to see his fate was Louis XVI (who was reading about Charles I of England in prison) but I don't think it was the mob or Lafayette or thinking of old friends which put Marie Antoinette into real fear, for her children's life in particular.  It seemed to be the king's death which really brought things home to her.  But I don't think that ties in with an earlier suicidal desire for death, on the basis of emotional attachment to people who were perfectly safe elsewhere, but with what had been the problem all along - political ineptness and misjudgement of character (although plenty of far more politically savvy people misjudged Lafayette).  The terrible vision of hindsight seems to present an inexorable path to the guillotine - but because she didn't take what we now see as possibly a last chance to get out (though of course it doesn't follow that Lafayette would have been able to make good on his offer), it doesn't mean she saw it that way, or saw death as inevitable then.

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Re: Queen Marie Antoinette, Part II
« Reply #121 on: July 14, 2012, 10:37:34 PM »
The DVD of the movie "Les adieux a la reine" will be released on September 18. For those with an European region DVD player:
http://www.amazon.fr/Les-adieux-reine-Benoît-Jacquot/dp/B008FR3MZU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1342323103&sr=8-1
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Re: Queen Marie Antoinette, Part II
« Reply #122 on: July 22, 2012, 07:25:26 PM »
"Farewell, My Queen

Opens on Friday in New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco." (NYT 07.13.2012). It must have already opened, according to NY Times. You can read the full movie review here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/13/movies/farewell-my-queen-set-at-versailles.html

Movie times in 4 states, CA, NY, IL, Louisiana:
http://www.showtimes.com/movies/farewell-my-queen-32020/movie-times/

Rotten Tomatoes review:
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/farewell_my_queen/
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Re: Queen Marie Antoinette, Part II
« Reply #123 on: July 22, 2012, 08:05:40 PM »
I will reserve judgement on this film until I see it. Most likely on DVD as I travel so much and I doubt it will be shown on a flight anytime soon.  I was most dissapointed with the previous MA effort,  by Coppola. So far, the reviews seem to be positive for this project.
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Re: Queen Marie Antoinette, Part II
« Reply #124 on: July 23, 2012, 08:56:23 AM »
I will reserve judgement on this film until I see it. Most likely on DVD as I travel so much and I doubt it will be shown on a flight anytime soon.  I was most dissapointed with the previous MA effort,  by Coppola. So far, the reviews seem to be positive for this project.

I saw it on a transatlantic Air France flight coming back to the US... Yes, the reviews are mostly good. I personally enjoyed it.

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Re: Queen Marie Antoinette, Part II
« Reply #125 on: July 23, 2012, 09:31:58 AM »
That is good news P of T.  Perhaps BA will show it as well. In any case, I will back to Britain  soon enough to pick it up when I am there.
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Re: Queen Marie Antoinette, Part II
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Re: Queen Marie Antoinette, Part II
« Reply #127 on: August 03, 2012, 05:56:41 PM »
I saw the movie last weekend here in metropolitan Washington DC.  I cannot say that I really liked it.  It was not shot within the Queen's apartments.  Parts of it was supposedly shot in Le Petit Trianon.  Knowing the layout of both places visually and plan wise, it is clear that they used other venues - unless things have changed dramatically, it has been some years since I have been there...  They used the outside of the buildings in the film and the Galerie des Glaces. Interesting the take on Mme Campan and Rose Bertin. Would like to hear what other members thought of the movie.
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Re: Queen Marie Antoinette, Part II
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Re: Queen Marie Antoinette, Part II
« Reply #129 on: August 27, 2012, 04:06:34 PM »
A lavish, balanced documentary about Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette (part 1 of 4):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpDTqmWiQ40

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Re: Queen Marie Antoinette, Part II
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Re: Queen Marie Antoinette, Part II
« Reply #131 on: February 02, 2013, 05:19:41 PM »
Those of us who met the late Archduke Otto von Habsburg (1912-2011) and shook his hand, must have realized that they had been only 4 handshakes away from meeting Marie Antoinette... She met her nephew, the future Emperor Francisc II of Austria, while he was young, who later shook the hand of his grandson, the future Emperor Franz Joseph I (who was 5 when Francisc died), who later shook the hand of Archduke Otto (who was 4 when Franz Joseph died). Those who may meet Otto's children would be only 5 handshakes away from meeting Marie Antoinette...

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Re: Queen Marie Antoinette, Part II
« Reply #132 on: February 02, 2013, 08:00:31 PM »
Farewell My Queen (2012)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6QncB4YKlE
Is this movie possible to watch with English subtitles?

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Re: Queen Marie Antoinette, Part II
« Reply #133 on: February 02, 2013, 10:59:23 PM »
Should be on DVD soon.