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A Poet Among the Romanovs/J. Saenz
« on: April 09, 2004, 12:28:41 AM »
I just received my copy of this book and it looks terrific! It can be ordered through Eurohistory.com. Will report back once I've read it.

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Re: A Poet Among the Romanovs/J. Saenz
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2004, 01:47:25 PM »
Lisa,
I believe the author may have checked in on this forum!
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So long and thanks for all the fish

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Re: A Poet Among the Romanovs/J. Saenz
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2004, 10:37:48 PM »
There are excerpts from Jorge Saenz' A Poet Among the Romanovs of Prince Vladimir Paley:

http://www.holy-transfiguration.org/library_en/royal_paley.html

Many many thanks Jorge !

Joanna




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Re: A Poet Among the Romanovs/J. Saenz
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2004, 04:29:31 PM »
Its a great book, I just received it Yesterday. Its a glimp into the Paley family.


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Re: A Poet Among the Romanovs/J. Saenz
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2004, 08:31:42 PM »
Hi Teddy

I also am in awe of Jorge's book for the insight into the life of Prince Vladimir Paley. His writing style flows and I especially was impressed with the translation of the poems, quotes from diaries and letters, endnotes, genealogy and references. From the prologue: '...I hope this brief tribute  to his memory encourages further study of the prince's literary work and maybe even the publicaton of a major biography...'

Prince Vladimir was '...not a Romanov. The rules of the imperial family prevented him from being considered a member of the dynasty...' There is a poignancy today a hundred years later as the grandson of HM The King of Thailand was killed during the horor of the tsunami. He was not considered a member of the Royal Family as his mother had married an American. Now in death, he is embraced as a member and to the Thai people as a symbol.

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Re: A Poet Among the Romanovs/J. Saenz
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2004, 11:08:36 AM »
Joanna,

I think that Jorge's book on Volodia Paley is simply amazing...I know the passion he put into his research and how very much he labored into making this as wonderful as it turned out.  I was honored to have Jorge's confidence in bringing the book to print under the Eurohistory label.

Jorge and I have known each other for many years.  His sister and I were classmates, another sister of his, who is a good friend of my mother's, is married to a cousin of mine; his father was a marvelous pediatrician and founder of one of the best Children's Hospitals in Latin America, as well as a former Vicepresident of our country, Costa Rica.  Jorge himself has been a diplomat for almost two decades and is a highly respected, and talented, university professor.

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Re: A Poet Among the Romanovs/J. Saenz
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2005, 08:56:34 AM »
Art - is Mr. Saenz working on another Romanov related book?

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Re: A Poet Among the Romanovs/J. Saenz
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2005, 02:51:44 PM »
Nope...he is not...Volodia Paley is his main interest...but I have to chat with Jorge soon to see if he can be talked into writing something else...

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Re: A Poet Among the Romanovs/J. Saenz
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2005, 08:18:21 AM »
I was encouraged that someone finally attempted to write a fuller biography of Prince Vladimir Pavlovich.  "A Poet Among the Romanovs" was a good attempt and I applaud Mr. Saenz's effort, but the final product was short and a bit of a let down.  The book is certainly not "amazing":  the writing is not overly impressive (though for a non-native speaker of English, which I assume the author is, it is good), the research is not extensive (the author mainly relied on four sources) and the story is nothing new.  I wish Mr. Saenz had spent more of his efforts focusing on the Prince's life and literary accomplishments (which he does a fair amount of), and less on his exile and death.  There are much better books that focus on the sadder events of 1917 and on.  Despite my criticisms, I do think it is a worthy addition to the library of any student of the Romanov Dynasty and late Imperial Russian history.

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Re: A Poet Among the Romanovs/J. Saenz
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2005, 12:18:51 PM »
I just finished reading this book, and thought it was wonderful: a moving tribute to a very talented young man.  I do wish there had been more quotations from the poetry, though.  Is there any chance that Vladimir Paley's poetry will be translated into English?  (Unfortunately, I can't read Russian.  I can read French, so I will look for the poetry he wrote in French.  I think my library has Jacques Ferrand's book about Grand Duke Paul, which was one of the sources Mr. Saenz used.)

Thanks, Arturo, for making this book available!  It's a valuable addition to the Romanov literature.
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Re: A Poet Among the Romanovs/J. Saenz
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2005, 11:44:21 AM »
I would have to discuss this with Jorge Sáenz, who will be meeting with me in early September in Costa Rica when I am on vacation there next.  I will be sure to mention it to him though.

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Re: A Poet Among the Romanovs/J. Saenz
« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2005, 07:32:12 PM »
Its wonderful to think there are still people out there,  who would write a book on V.P.P! I have the book, and love it!  

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Re: A Poet Among the Romanovs/J. Saenz
« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2005, 08:46:31 PM »
Jorge Sáenz is a renowned diplomat who was given unique access to the GARF and with that he managed to put together an amazing book...which we here at Eurohistory.com were honored to edit and publish.

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Re: A Poet Among the Romanovs/J. Saenz
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2005, 11:49:39 AM »
I am sure this book is good, although I have not had a chance to read it yet, but it is nice that someone decided to write a book about someone who badly needed a biography, being of great interest, but not much writtern about. Prince Vladimir Paley did not live a long life, but he accomplished much in a short while, was very gifted, did much for the world, so he needed a biography. He fascinates me, and it is great that he fascinated someone else and thattuurned that fascination into something constructive, and that badly needed to be done.

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Re: A Poet Among the Romanovs/J. Saenz
« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2005, 05:48:02 PM »
Well..the book is available for purchase through us at books@eurohistory.com if you are interested.

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