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Offline Marlene

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Re: The Hesse-Cassel family
« Reply #135 on: December 12, 2008, 01:58:07 PM »
However, the information would be clouded ... I haVe never written about the Victorian age .. I write about the people - based on sources and I cite those sources.

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In Germany one says: asking is for free.....

He told the guests so much about several relations - with a certain "glitter" in his eyes :) I mean it is quite delicate a period but finally he has written and said much about it and there are no secrets whatsoever. Plus: it is not necessary to actually witness an age to be an expert about it. There are plenty of documents and as you said before: the Prince might have got many stories from his mother, Prince and Princess Ludwig etc.
I guess Marlene has not known Queen Victoria or anyone who knew her - nonetheless she is able to write about the Victorian Age ^^
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Re: The Hesse-Cassel family
« Reply #136 on: December 12, 2008, 03:17:32 PM »
Indeed...although people's opinons and morale codes are tied to their ages. For example the Edwardian age is much more progessive in thought than the early Victorian age.

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Re: The Hesse-Cassel family
« Reply #137 on: December 12, 2008, 04:33:51 PM »
Helen, you are a librarian, right -- so you should know this ... certainly if you are a librarian in the US who graduated from an ALA-accredited school, you will know how to handle copyright ...
and if you check WorldCat, you will find that 8 libraries in the world have the book  -- all are in Germany.
Marlene, I think you may be confusing me with another Helen on this forum (Helen_A?). I'm not from the USA nor a librarian; I actually graduated in a totally different field and have only a limited knowledge of copyright law.

Thank you for bringing WorldCat to our attention. It should be easy to get Prince Wolfgang's Aufzeichnungen through interlibrary loan. :)
"The Correspondence of the Empress Alexandra of Russia with Ernst Ludwig and Eleonore, Grand Duke and Duchess of Hesse. 1878-1916"  -  http://www.bod.de/index.php?id=296&objk_
"Grand Duke Ernst Ludwig and Princess Alix of Hesse and by Rhine in Italy - 1893"

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Re: The Hesse-Cassel family
« Reply #138 on: December 15, 2008, 11:50:18 AM »



Dear Helen

My apologies.  It depends if the libraries iin Germany will lend the books.
Helen, you are a librarian, right -- so you should know this ... certainly if you are a librarian in the US who graduated from an ALA-accredited school, you will know how to handle copyright ...
and if you check WorldCat, you will find that 8 libraries in the world have the book  -- all are in Germany.
Marlene, I think you may be confusing me with another Helen on this forum (Helen_A?). I'm not from the USA nor a librarian; I actually graduated in a totally different field and have only a limited knowledge of copyright law.

Thank you for bringing WorldCat to our attention. It should be easy to get Prince Wolfgang's Aufzeichnungen through interlibrary loan. :)
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Re: The Hesse-Cassel family
« Reply #139 on: December 15, 2008, 01:28:03 PM »
Well...I don't think it is impossible. The libraries and archieves there in Germany are generally quite helpful. I have been there and was pleased by their egarness to help.

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Re: The Hesse-Cassel family
« Reply #140 on: December 15, 2008, 02:04:47 PM »
Dear Helen
My apologies.  It depends if the libraries in Germany will lend the books.
No need to apologize!  :)

It's true that not all libraries are prepared to lend books. However, several of the libraries WorldCat mentioned for this book are university libraries, and they may still allow people to read/inspect this book in supervised reading rooms at other universities when they do not want to lend it out properly.
"The Correspondence of the Empress Alexandra of Russia with Ernst Ludwig and Eleonore, Grand Duke and Duchess of Hesse. 1878-1916"  -  http://www.bod.de/index.php?id=296&objk_
"Grand Duke Ernst Ludwig and Princess Alix of Hesse and by Rhine in Italy - 1893"

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Re: The Hesse-Cassel family
« Reply #141 on: April 23, 2009, 05:10:51 PM »
Empress Friedrich's letters to Anna

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Re: The Hesse-Cassel family
« Reply #142 on: May 02, 2009, 01:06:31 PM »
Princess Anna was very fond of Vicky according to Wally Paget, and she was full of sympathy when Prince Albert died.

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Re: The Hesse-Cassel family
« Reply #143 on: August 04, 2009, 09:59:29 PM »
I'm curious about Philipp and Mafalda's daughter Elisabeth, who was born in 1940.  I believe Mafalda and Philipp agreed to raise their sons as Lutheran and their daughter as Catholic, but as far as I know Elisabeth was mostly raised by her father's side of the family after her parents were taken away, and until her father was released in 1948.  It must have been difficult to raise a child in a different religion, especially when the child is only eight years old.  She married Count Friedrich Carl von Oppersdorf. 
Grand Duchess Alice of Hesse:  "Each year brings us nearer to the Wiedersehen [reunion with the dead], though it is sad to think how one's glass is running out, & how little good goes with it, compared to the numberless blessings we receive.  Time goes incredibly fast."

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« Reply #144 on: March 08, 2010, 06:01:05 AM »
Some pictures of Prince Philipp of Hesse-Cassel, the son of Prince Frederick Charles of Hesse and Princess Margaret of Prussia:









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« Reply #145 on: March 08, 2010, 12:15:35 PM »
Philipp of Hesse's last years were quite sad. The war years were ones the family did not want to recollect with good reason. When the book about Royal Familes and the Reich was about to be written, Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh asked "Why do you (the author) want to talk about the Hesses ?". It would not be written without Prince Rainer of Hesse who want the slate to be wiped clean by a book.

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Re: The Hesse-Cassel family
« Reply #146 on: July 10, 2010, 10:06:09 PM »
Can anyone provide me with biographical information about Friedrich Wilhelm of Hesse-Kassel (1820-1884)?  I'm researching for a major project, and am having a great deal of difficulty finding anything about his life.  I'm mainly interested in his personality and his marriage to Alexandra Nikolaevna--I know that he was initially a suitor for Olga Nikolaevna, and fell in love with Alexandra instead, but that's about it.  Were there political reasons for his potential match with Olga?  I'd appreciate any help I can get; many thanks in advance!  
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Re: The Hesse-Cassel family
« Reply #147 on: July 11, 2010, 12:35:34 PM »
There is some information about him in the only English book about his brother-in-law Christian IX of Denmark.

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Re: The Hesse-Cassel family
« Reply #148 on: July 11, 2010, 05:23:14 PM »
Eric, what is the title of the book?

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Re: The Hesse-Cassel family
« Reply #149 on: July 11, 2010, 05:51:35 PM »
It's Christian IX by Hans Roger Madol.
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