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Offline Sara Araújo

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New One
« on: March 10, 2011, 03:41:53 PM »
Someone sent me this video of another Romanov claimant. He shows a number of documents (letters or e-mails, I think) that supposedly prove that the bones discovered are fake. He or she doesn't give any suggestion to how the Grand Duchesses, Alexandra and Alexei survived, but he/she shows a few photographs of the supposed imperial family at an old age.

The video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGuDxJiZJJk

And some of the photos:

Alleged OTMA:



Alleged Alexandra:



Alleged Olga and Alexei:



Alleged Olga:



Alleged Tatiana:



Alleged Maria:



Alleged Anastasia:



What do you think of this one?
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Re: New One
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2011, 05:47:55 PM »
Oh brother!

Offline Dust_of_History

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Re: New One
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2011, 06:02:28 AM »
I am glad that we know better!

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Re: New One
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2011, 09:37:10 AM »
Just how would Alexei have grown to such a height that he towered over Olga?

Actually the alleged Alexandra does bear a kind of resemblance to the original.

Here we go again!

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Re: New One
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2011, 11:36:52 AM »
The person who made the video refers to Alexandra as "Queen Alexandra" and uses several photos of Ella to make comparisons, so... I mean, I can tell the difference between my great-grandmother and her sister, I would kind of expect a descendant of the Romanovs to know between his too.   :P
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Re: New One
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2011, 11:45:44 AM »
*snicker!*  *tee hee!*

Man, some people just can't face reality, it seems.

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Re: New One
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2011, 01:35:45 PM »
Go read some of the comments on Resurrection of the Romanovs on Amazon if you want to see total rejection of reality!
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Re: New One
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2011, 05:26:19 AM »
I tried not to laugh when looking at those pictures and watching the video. Indeed some people can’t face the reality, they will always doubt the DNA result, even if AA came back to life and said she is not Anastasia and she lied about the whole matter, still some people will still believe she was AN.
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Re: New One
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2011, 01:04:26 PM »
This guy must think people will believe anything they see on the internet. Either that or he is seriously delusional.

He has also posted a video about his wife on YouTube where he claims that she has "noble roots" and is a "princess in her own right". Then he states that both of their grandparents were present at the signing of the Declaration Of Independence - which would make him almost 200 years old!

I tried posting some historical Romanov information to his YouTube video and he reported me as a spammer and blocked me from further posts. A classic case of "My mind's made up ... don't confuse me with the facts."

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Re: New One
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2011, 01:15:32 PM »
He is delusional. I've been talking to him by e-mail, trying to figure out what led him to believe that his family descends from the Romanovs. When I asked how did they manage to escape Russia, he said he didn't know exactly, he only knew that they had gone to Budapest, made their way to Paris and then to America. I reminded him that Alexei was not able to walk at the time because of a serious fall and so it would be difficult for the family to make such a long travel with him at their back, not to mention that it was almost impossible for them to leave Russia without the knowledge of the government. He replied by saying that I needed to "watch more of my films or study the romanovs a little bit better" and that he was sure his great-grandmother was a Romanov just because I also know who my great-grandmother is. And then he sent me another of his videos...  ::)
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Re: New One
« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2011, 06:08:33 PM »
I received the following email from him:

you dont get it still... im sorry to say you can NOT run D.N.A testing on bones you never had as for D.N.A testing the romanovs had extended family that where servent in there house and further more i must say you have not done your resurch then and dont know what your talking about and im am not a historian but i do know who my ancesters are and like i said befor you are entitled to your own opinion you are the first devils advocate out of over 200 messages and even know you have an opinion it dosn't matter it is what it is as far as im concerned you could be one of the scientist involved ... new account on youtube no friends no subscribers that leads me to believe you must be part of the problem and created this user name to troll please do you can not change the fact that the photos exist or that i carry the D.N.A of kings and may god bless you

Hard to argue with a guy who has the DNA of kings and believes that the facts don't matter!

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Re: New One
« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2011, 02:07:55 AM »
i actually can't comprehend how people can still claim to be romanov descendants etc. THE BODIES HAVE BEEN FOUND! i seriously don't understand how you can argue against 7 bodies tested and without doubt certified as the IF.

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Re: New One
« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2011, 02:18:09 AM »
i just watched the video and made a large comment, but just deleted it before posting, whats the point? if you're THAT delusional, then nothings going to make you see sense.

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Re: New One
« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2011, 08:52:45 AM »
The blood of kings?  Maybe tsars or emperors?  Just what does "extended family who were servant in there (I guess he means their) house" mean?

Over the years, there have been so many who, with no bodies to prove the truth, have "dined out" on being a Romanov that they just can't stop or help themselves.

I have a cousin who has been working on our family tree for most of his life and he believes that we are descended from Edward Longshanks (Edward I, Plantagenet).  I don't think so, but he is convinced.

Everyone wants their fifteen minutes of fame and to a lot of people that means finding out that they are related to royalty.  Especially royalty who were "lost" for over 80 years.

I just wonder about the psychology of those who believe and (like Franziska Schanzkowska) how did they begin to believe and why?  Did they just wake up one morning and tell themselves this was a good idea?  Strange...

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Re: New One
« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2011, 08:55:50 AM »
I have a cousin who has been working on our family tree for most of his life and he believes that we are descended from Edward Longshanks (Edward I, Plantagenet).  I don't think so, but he is convinced.

Why not? When a monarch has daughters, like Edward I had,  who marry into the nobility, and their offspring continue the downward social spiral by sinking or marrying into the gentry, then the yeoman class etc. it doesn't take many generations to reach somebody as humble as you and yours truly!

With regard to medieval monarchs, the descendants had to stay within the armigerous classes untill keeping of records of baptisms, weddings and deaths also was extended to average folks (some time after the Reformation or Counter-Reformation, depending on area), otherwise it's impossible to document.

But recent examples of how quick social descent is possible are e.g. (morganatic) Romanov scions and The Lady Iris Mountbatten, great grand-daughter of QV, and her descendants. And consider this: QEII, the current high priestess of royalty, can trace her ancestry on both her father's and her mother's side back to the Dark Ages through many lines (if we keep undocumented mythical descent from King David, Wodan etc. out of the picture!), but one maternal line stops in the last half of the 18th century, with a certain Frances Webb (the Queen Mother's maternal great great grandmother). Who was this Frances Webb? And how removed was she from the lowly weaver who probably was the source of her surname? Or consider hereditary peers called Cooper, Le Tonnelier de Breteuil etc. That means one of their ancestors was a mere cooper!

If QEII can be descended from an obscure 18th century woman we know nothing about, I can't see why you can't be descended from a 13th century monarch! If you give it a few generations and throw in lots of hard work, sex drive, crime and disasters, then social mobility, in both directions, can be amazing, not only in the US, but also in the ancien-régime Old World.
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