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Re: New One
« Reply #30 on: March 26, 2011, 12:08:21 PM »
All so true.  On Bob's Mother's side, 12 generations back he has one Sir Robert de la Mar as an ancestor, who fought at the Battle of Hastings and was awarded a title and property. Among Robert's more recent descendants, aside from Bob are Queen Elizabeth II, Prince Charles, Princes William and Harry and Lady Diana Spencer, Princess of Wales!!  Bob is very bummed he didn't get an invite to William and Kate's wedding...LOL

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Re: New One
« Reply #31 on: March 27, 2011, 12:23:59 PM »
YouTube guy has removed his DNA video. It would be interesting to know whether he's had a change of heart or whether he's regrouping for another assault on reality!

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« Reply #32 on: March 28, 2011, 06:24:24 AM »
FA - I'll have to keep looking in my tree.  Maybe Bob and I are related. 

After all my cousin thinks we are related to Edward I Plantagenet and my relatives are from Wales and Edward II (his son) was the first to style himself Prince of Wales....  LOL  So where is MY invite to the "wedding of the century".

My Edmund Lewis was born in:   Llysalybont, Glamorganshire, Wales.  He died in Lynn, Essex, MA in 1650.

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Re: New One
« Reply #33 on: March 28, 2011, 10:33:57 AM »
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YouTube guy has removed his DNA video. It would be interesting to know whether he's had a change of heart or whether he's regrouping for another assault on reality

Maybe he's gone back to his home planet.

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Re: New One
« Reply #34 on: March 30, 2011, 10:03:33 PM »
Not sure if this is the same person or not but I've been receiving messages on my youtube account from a user claiming AS USUAL to have "secret" knowledge that will "come out" soon. The story made me laugh though. I'll post some select bits for your reading "pleasure".

"I see that you are trying to be accurate and logical here with your statement. Try adding this logic to your expertise...Anastasia was changeling at birth at Petergof. Yes! That is right! This is the exact reason WHY the DNA tests have no match for Anna Anderson! The Tsarina labored in 1901, giving birth to a "special needs" infant that could not remain as part of Tsarkoe Selo and the court. It could not be known that a baby that was not normal was born. Grand Duchess Ella switched the baby boy with a Polish infant, thus the adoption of Anastasia in to the Romanov Family."

"I am a Historian of the Imperial Russian Dynasty, I lunch with Princesses of Holstein-Gottorp-Romanov, as well as Von Hesse, Von Hapsburg, and Von Hohenzollern. I have told them what you said, and they laugh at your ignorance! You know absolutely nothing about this history or what WWII did to it!"

He also sent me, for some strange reason, a letter he supposedly sent to Peter Sarandinaki of the SEARCH Foundation.

"Господь им дал дар по молитвам их размягчать окаменелые наши сердца за их страдания..Мне думается, что если люди будут молиться Царской Cемье, оттают сердца с Божией помощью."

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Re: New One
« Reply #35 on: March 30, 2011, 10:49:33 PM »
Hi,

Well, shades of Mary Modena and her 'warming pan baby'!!!!!!.....
I must say that I give credit to this "delude" for coming up with a new take on that old story.  But, a royal or imperial birth, as we all know, is not a very private event.  There are several people around and popping in & out during the confinement, so just when did Ella run off to Poland and steal a little peasant girl and present her to the Czar????
I know Ella was a saint;  but good Gawd, she didn't have wings yet!!!

Thanks Holly for sharing this 'new' discovery.

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« Reply #36 on: March 30, 2011, 11:47:07 PM »
"I see that you are trying to be accurate and logical here with your statement.

There's your mistake, Holly ... trying to be accurate and logical! It's so much easier to make outrageous statements with no evidence to back them up. Then label anyone who disagrees as uninformed and ignorant.

I'm utterly amazed at how these wingnuts can so easily dismiss decades of research by hundreds of serious scientists and historians.

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Re: New One
« Reply #37 on: March 31, 2011, 08:32:24 AM »
You're welcome, Larry. I also was pretty impressed with this one!

Yes, here I go again, with my accuracy and logic. I guess I'll never learn..

Apparently Alexei was also adopted:

"There was also another female child placed in a home in The Netherlands belonging to the Imperial Family. These were difficult times, and no birth control. The common people do not know the pressures on the Royal Families to produce a proper heir, to protect children and families from mixed blood lines, bad blood, assassinations, changelings, use of changelings, and other bloodline issues. The True Crown has enemies going back thousands of years, both within and without.

Similarly, the Tsarevich is NOT a biological son of the Tsar. The Tsar became sexually impotent after his bout with Typhoid fever in 1900. Alexei is actually a son of the Tsar confident friend, General Orlov and the Tsarina Maria Feodorovna. This is why Nicholas II abdicated for his adopted son, he was NOT a Romanov, but by adoption.

I finding it both shocking and appalling that scientists have not figured out the logic that is "family basics", when in comes to a Royal household. Many Royals were changelings, and spread around the continent. Are you against adoptions?"


I particularly enjoy - "Are you against adoptions?"
"Господь им дал дар по молитвам их размягчать окаменелые наши сердца за их страдания..Мне думается, что если люди будут молиться Царской Cемье, оттают сердца с Божией помощью."

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Re: New One
« Reply #38 on: March 31, 2011, 09:11:56 AM »
Hi Holly,

Wow, this gets better & better;  and stupider & stupider!!!!

Maria Feodorovna had a baby at 53?  And, with a General Orlov (whoever he was?).....???
I know she loved to dance with her generals and officers but that's it!!!  She was a pretty moral person, whatever her other faults may have been...

This guy seriously needs to be committed - maybe to the asylum run by Alexander III....  This is my poor attempt at a joke!!

Larry

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« Reply #39 on: March 31, 2011, 12:13:02 PM »
Similarly, the Tsarevich is NOT a biological son of the Tsar. The Tsar became sexually impotent after his bout with Typhoid fever in 1900. Alexei is actually a son of the Tsar confident friend, General Orlov and the Tsarina Maria Feodorovna. This is why Nicholas II abdicated for his adopted son, he was NOT a Romanov, but by adoption.


I wonder how this guy explains (or dismisses) the Russian DNA testing that identified the gene for hemophilia in the remains of Alexandra, Alexei, and one of the GDs?

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Re: New One
« Reply #40 on: March 31, 2011, 12:29:42 PM »
Maria Feodorovna had a baby at 53?  And, with a General Orlov (whoever he was?).....???


Wasn't General Orlov the "bad guy" in the James Bond movie Octopussy?

Maybe Alexei did survive and grew up to be a British secret service agent who inspired Ian Fleming to create James Bond.

There must be people out there who believe they are reincarnations of members of the imperial family. Maybe historians could learn the "real truth" from their past-life memories!

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« Reply #41 on: March 31, 2011, 03:50:58 PM »
 
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AS USUAL to have "secret" knowledge that will "come out" soon

Of course, this knowledge NEVER comes out, because it doesn't exist :)

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« Reply #42 on: April 01, 2011, 11:16:56 AM »
Of course, this knowledge NEVER comes out, because it doesn't exist :)

If we could only access the archives on Planet X!

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« Reply #43 on: April 01, 2011, 11:27:17 AM »
Who IS this deranged clown ? I can't seem to find him on Youtube or anywhere else these crackpots congregate. I am beginning to doubt he even exists.
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« Reply #44 on: April 01, 2011, 01:43:12 PM »
There was an Orlov who was associated with Alexandra.  I don't know why, but I seem to remember that he was around during the typhoid illness of Nicholas at Livadia in 1900, but Alexandra was already pregnant with Anastasia who would be born the next year in June.

There was a big flap about a regency in the case of the Tsar's death, but Alexandra wanted to be in charge in case the baby would be born a boy.  Michael was considered, but both Nicholas and Alexandra were against that.  Nicholas thought that Michael would mess things up as regent (how he could mess things up more than N&A is a mystery, but that is what was said at the time).

General Prince Alexander Orlov. He was commandant of the Tsarina´s Regiment of Ulanos and what Greg King says in his book is that it was just society gossip and of course he had NO affair at all with Alexandra. He died, I think, some years before the revolution while being in Egypt