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Re: Re: Photos of Nicholas II #5
« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2011, 07:09:29 AM »
Well, they weren't like Belsen, no, but I wouldn't go so far as to say they were comfortable. Families were allowed to stay together, but quarters were cramped and very poorly built. And the restrooms and showers provided no privacy.

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Re: Re: Photos of Nicholas II #5
« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2011, 08:04:27 AM »
And the restrooms and showers provided no privacy.

So this is puritanical America's idea of a concentration camp! Hm, was perhaps the Soviet Union perhaps "The Evil Empire" simply because nudism (gasp!) was no big deal?

Reminds me of some anti-obesity campaigners' slogan of "Nobody came out of Belsen fat"! (Yes, they've actually said it, no joke.) Duh, those who didn't come out had died, one of the causes being starvation!
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Re: Re: Photos of Nicholas II #5
« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2011, 08:25:53 AM »
Comfortable in comparison with similar institutions elsewhere, such as Japanese internment camps for civilians. The food was certainly vastly better.

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Re: Re: Photos of Nicholas II #5
« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2011, 09:13:29 AM »
All I meant was that the US "concentrated" various individuals into areas (camps).  And I do know that the reason behind the concentrating of these individuals was not the same as the reason it was done it Germany.    But remember that the Germans called the camps "resettlement camps" and that is pretty much what the US was calling them as well.

And I doubt that the Japanese Americans saw the distinction between "internment" and "concentration" or "resettlement"  They just knew that their freedom had been taken away and I am sure they were terrified of life in those camps.

Again, the word was been misused and a new definition has taken the place of any other definition.  I have mentioned before that commune has become the hated communism.  Life in a commune or communal living was never originally meant as a world scourge.  In fact it was just the opposite, the gathering together of those who would live in peace and interact with each other peacefully while helping one another "each to his own ability".

My original post was just an exercise in the corruption of words and symbols and our inability to remember what the original purpose of the word was.

I am not, of course, condoning anything that was done either in Germany of in the US.

This all started with a picture of Nicholas beside a car that had a swastika as a hood ornament.  A symbol which, in Nicholas's time, meant only love, life, light and luck.  The four arms of the swastika are four of the letter "L" turned to connect to each other.

The word "swastika" comes from the Sanskrit svastika - "su" meaning "good," "asti" meaning "to be," and "ka" as a suffix.

Until the Nazis used this symbol, the swastika was used by many cultures throughout the past 3,000 years to represent life, sun, power, strength, and good luck.


Some cultures in the past had differentiated between the clockwise swastika and the counter-clockwise sauvastika. In these cultures the swastika symbolized health and life while the sauvastika took on a mystical meaning of bad-luck or misfortune.

But since the Nazis use of the swastika, some people are trying to differentiate the two meanings of the swastika by varying its direction - trying to make the clockwise, Nazi version of the swastika mean hate and death while the counter-clockwise version would hold the ancient meaning of the symbol, life and good-luck.
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Re: Re: Photos of Nicholas II #5
« Reply #19 on: March 27, 2011, 06:47:00 AM »
Nicholas II ca1899:






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Re: Re: Photos of Nicholas II #5
« Reply #20 on: March 27, 2011, 11:50:30 PM »
Never seen none of these before. Great pics! Congratulations for finding them!

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Re: Re: Photos of Nicholas II #5
« Reply #21 on: March 30, 2011, 08:20:45 PM »
( the 2nd one) He's with with Duke Peter Alexandrovich of Oldenburg and KR

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Re: Re: Photos of Nicholas II #5
« Reply #22 on: April 01, 2011, 07:27:47 AM »
I wonder what's in all the boxes carried by the others in the photo.

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Re: Re: Photos of Nicholas II #5
« Reply #23 on: April 01, 2011, 09:43:45 AM »
Could it be official papers?

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Re: Re: Photos of Nicholas II #5
« Reply #24 on: April 01, 2011, 08:35:44 PM »
Interestingly one of the boxes is round... They are presenting themselves to the Tsar in any case ....it's something from them for him it seems

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Re: Re: Photos of Nicholas II #5
« Reply #25 on: April 01, 2011, 08:42:39 PM »
I'm sure there were times when Nicholas II felt almost physically ill at the sight of more boxes full of official papers!

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« Reply #26 on: April 08, 2011, 09:03:51 AM »
young nicholas and cousins



 

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« Reply #27 on: April 11, 2011, 01:09:52 PM »
You all welcome!!!

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Re: Re: Photos of Nicholas II #5
« Reply #28 on: April 12, 2011, 01:17:17 AM »
Katenka_Fyodorovna  that's a wonderful photo of the young Nicholas! New to me, thank you!


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« Reply #29 on: April 12, 2011, 06:53:10 AM »
Thanks!! i found it in my book about Ena by Pilar Eyre (an awful book but with tons of gorgeous images)

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