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Re: Is this the playroom?
« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2006, 07:56:49 PM »
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It looks like the door to the girls' rooms, and I think it is a "cozy corner where the railings and bannisters are.


The door on the far left couldn't be one to the girls' rooms. That entrance is to Alexei's rooms. The Grand Duchesses' entrance would have been on the right. The direction of the dark runner indicates this as well. The enclosed area may have been for Alexei's bed, since his bed was sometimes moved into the playroom when he was ill.

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Re: Is this the playroom?
« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2006, 08:18:57 PM »
The dark runners indicate that the photo was taken during the "Detskoie Selo" period when the AP was a museum, as does the arrangement of the toys, the toys were all put away during the Imperial period

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Re: Is this the playroom?
« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2006, 08:52:54 PM »
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The dark runners indicate that the photo was taken during the "Detskoie Selo" period when the AP was a museum, as does the arrangement of the toys, the toys were all put away during the Imperial period


I knew that already. I was simply pointing out the direction of the runner.

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Re: Is this the playroom?
« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2006, 10:25:51 PM »
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The dark runners indicate that the photo was taken during the "Detskoie Selo" period when the AP was a museum, as does the arrangement of the toys, the toys were all put away during the Imperial period

I've been meaning to ask about those runners. So they weren't used by the Imperial Family? Some of the watercolors make them look like red carpets, so I wasn't sure -- though red carpet seemed a little 'uppity' for the private apartments, considering Alix's modest taste.  ;)
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Re: Is this the playroom?
« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2006, 05:45:18 AM »
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I've been meaning to ask about those runners. So they weren't used by the Imperial Family? Some of the watercolors make them look like red carpets, so I wasn't sure -- though red carpet seemed a little 'uppity' for the private apartments, considering Alix's modest taste.  ;)


No, they weren't. They were used most likely to preserve the light carpets beneath when tourists came through.

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Help ID-ing various rooms
« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2006, 11:18:43 PM »
Hey folks!

I've got some vintage palace photos I need help identifying. I'm not sure if they're all the AP, but I don't know where else to post them...

Olga's bedroom, or a sickroom?
1. 2.

Whose bedrooms -- Big Pair or Little Pair?
3. 4.

Alexander Palace or elsewhere? (And are these the same room?)
5. 6.

Alexander Palace or Livadia?
7. 8.

Pallisander Room?
9. 10.

??
11. 12. 13.

Thanks for any help you can give!
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Re: Help ID-ing various rooms
« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2006, 09:32:17 AM »
1,2
3,4
5,6
7,8
9.10
11,12,13

1. Olga's room, AP
3. Mauve Boudoir, corner chair by the door.
5. AP
7,8 AP Children's classroom
10. Anya Vyroubova's house in TS
12,13 AP


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Re: Help ID-ing various rooms
« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2006, 10:11:02 AM »
Marvelous! Thank you, Rob.  8)
(I've updated the original post to include your numbering scheme.)

Anyone know precisely which AP rooms appear in photos #5, 12, and 13?
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Re: Help ID-ing various rooms
« Reply #23 on: February 12, 2006, 10:24:01 AM »
Photo 3 cannot be the mauve boudoir. See the wall hangings to the left of Anastasia.

Photo 9 was taken in the Old Palace of Livadia.

Photo 12 is not from the AP, it was taken in the childrenīs rooms of Lower Palace.

Photographs 7 and 8 cannot be the grand duchessesī classroom at the AP. It reminds me of Livadia but cannot tell for sure without checking a couple of books.

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Re: Help ID-ing various rooms
« Reply #24 on: February 12, 2006, 11:27:48 AM »
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Photo 3 cannot be the mauve boudoir. See the wall hangings to the left of Anastasia..

Photographs 7 and 8 cannot be the grand duchessesī classroom at the AP. It reminds me of Livadia but cannot tell for sure without checking a couple of books.


Photo 3 is most certainly not the Mauve Room. The wallpaper behind Anastasia makes that clear. My guess would be the Crimson Room, as the Romanov Scrapbook on the main page places this photo on the second floor and the floral wallpaper is similar to that of the Crimson Room.

Photo 7 and 8 is also not at the AP. The decor is all wrong with the floral wallpaper and paneling. I would also agree that it is probably Livadia.

Photo 4 is in Olga and Tatiana's room. The chair that Marie is sitting on is prominently seen in this watercolor of O & T's room:
http://www.alexanderpalace.com/anastasia/maroom.html

Photo 5 was the sickroom at the AP. There's a similiar picture of Nicholas beside Tatiana there.

Photo 12 seems also like the Crimson Room, but the similarity between the wallpaper in Photo 3 and this one is questionable. Based on this image, I would say that it is the Crimson Room:
http://www.alexanderpalace.com/palace/images/crimsonrecpt.jpeg

Photo 13 is obviously of the Mauve Room. The flowers and decor of the doors and walls behind the girls' heads gives it away immediately.
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Re: Is this the playroom?
« Reply #25 on: February 18, 2006, 10:42:19 AM »
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2. Also in the photo above, what are the railings/banisters in the foreground for?


It looks to me like the children are posing in front of the same railings in this shot:
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Re: Is this the playroom?
« Reply #26 on: February 18, 2006, 02:59:21 PM »
Wow, I think you're right Sarushka! :) I never noticed that before or the fact that they were kneeling on the floor. I always assumed that they were standing behind a curtain.....

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Re: Help ID-ing various rooms
« Reply #27 on: February 19, 2006, 02:43:32 PM »
I have one more to add. Let's call it photo #14:
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Re: Help ID-ing various rooms
« Reply #28 on: February 19, 2006, 02:58:23 PM »
I beleive that 14 is Livadia.

Photo 13 is  the Mauve room, I should have noticed that earlier as the carpet is the dead give away.

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Re: Help ID-ing various rooms
« Reply #29 on: February 19, 2006, 04:03:51 PM »
I think that picture 10 is wonderful.  I haven't seen such a smiling picture before.  Anna V. must have been taking the picture since it is in her home.

My question is:  who are the men sitting with the family? They seem like they are right at home in their midst.

Thank you,
Arleen