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Re: Crown Prince Rudolph--controversies, affairs & his death
« Reply #585 on: October 14, 2010, 09:44:13 AM »
Im gonna look for a larger version of that image because it does look like a post mortem portrait. I hope its a picture cause i ve just seen two of Rudolph and both of them with that bandage in his head

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Re: Crown Prince Rudolph--controversies, affairs & his death
« Reply #586 on: October 14, 2010, 11:42:35 AM »
Thanks Pezzazz ! I totally agree with you that in both cases (Diana & JFK), people are not satisified with the official explaination (there is also no cut & dry DNA results to counter conspiracy theories-which is this case has more merit being a politically motivated act). A book would be nice to put it all into perspective. Would love to read "He did not die in Myerling", was it available in English ? Sounds like a gripping read...in the manner of "The Da Vinci code"...

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Re: Crown Prince Rudolph--controversies, affairs & his death
« Reply #587 on: October 14, 2010, 01:36:10 PM »
Yes Eric, it is written in English.  Remember he was raised in the US.

I just thought of another very good reason this book might have been written.  Not only was Pachmann waiting in the wings claiming to be the real legitimate heir as the Habsburg head of house and whatever fortune there was but there was also another son born after Rudolf died I think and detailed in Listowel's book.

She reported how a famous American Civil War General, James Longstreet, represented the US at Rudolf's and Stephanie's wedding and remained on friendly terms with Rudolf and was then hired by the emperor to track down Rudolf's son after the Mayerling tragedy.  General Longstreet was joined in his efforts by another civil war general -- Cassius Marcellus Clay -- who was appointed by Abraham Lincoln to the Russian court where he remained for 8 years and became close friends of the Czar and through that connection became involved with Rudolf and his American son.  Much of this information came from the State Historical Society of Missouri.  This 3rd son was the child of an illegitimate daugher of the Russian Czar. 

So here we have the supposed first son, Deventer, born in 1877 from a legal Catholic marriage between his mother of minor nobility and Crown Prince Rudolf.  That certainly trumps any claims made by anyone else, and best of all, Deventer is overflowing with praise for the late Emperor Karl and his entire family.
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Re: Crown Prince Rudolph--controversies, affairs & his death
« Reply #588 on: October 14, 2010, 02:49:07 PM »
I will try to locate this book. Sounds fun ! Yes if it could be proven that Rudolf married in a Catholic marriage that is...

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Re: Crown Prince Rudolph--controversies, affairs & his death
« Reply #589 on: October 14, 2010, 02:58:34 PM »
Several photos of Rudolph, his family and mistresses
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Re: Crown Prince Rudolph--controversies, affairs & his death
« Reply #590 on: October 15, 2010, 01:33:59 AM »
Interesting Thank You

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Re: Crown Prince Rudolph--controversies, affairs & his death
« Reply #591 on: October 15, 2010, 01:45:30 AM »
45 pages are enough I think. Part II is starting.