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Re: Alexandra and her Health Part 2
« Reply #480 on: March 08, 2012, 04:08:43 PM »
well alix believed that she was ill due to problems with her heart, however doctors reports show that this wasn't true, it was just something alix convinced herself of, and any problems like this were down to stress and nervous problems- something alix refused to admit. Therefore she was probably recieving the wrong treatment through stubborness. As for haemophilia she would have most likely have had effects because she was a carrier, and although she didn't really suffer from haemophilia, women can have effects due to it, which i think i read somewhere there was description of.
anyone know what form she would have taken veronal in?
I think veronal was taken in liquid form then, possibly in drops, but more likely in a sponful of liquid, a la cough syrup. Don't quote me on this.
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Re: Alexandra and her Health Part 2
« Reply #481 on: March 09, 2012, 12:40:07 AM »
I think it too. In her letters from Ekaterinbug, Maria always wrote about "Mama's bottles" so it's very likely it eas liquid/drops. But i'll check.
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Re: Alexandra and her Health Part 2
« Reply #482 on: March 10, 2012, 04:05:18 PM »
Having searched the Forum as best I could, I did not happen to find this incident addressed anywhere.
(Forgive me if I am wrong, and please point me to where it has been discussed already.)

In "25 Chapters of My Life", p. 79, Grand Duchess Olga Alexandrovna recounts how in the summer or autumn of 1903 she accompanied N II and AF to Pskov to attend the army maneuvers.

As elsewhere in her memoirs, Grand Duchess Olga Alexandrovna refers to them as "my eldest brother" and "my sister-in-law".

Grand Duchess Olga Alexandrovna states that while there, Empress Alexandra slipped and fell, breaking her arm. This is the first I have ever heard of this.

Does anyone know anything more about this?
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Re: Alexandra and her Health Part 2
« Reply #483 on: August 10, 2015, 01:45:56 PM »
Did  she have  Cyanosis  I Recall  reading  her lips  turned blue

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Re: Alexandra and her Health Part 2
« Reply #484 on: August 11, 2015, 02:17:27 AM »
In "25 Chapters of My Life", p. 79, Grand Duchess Olga Alexandrovna recounts how in the summer or autumn of 1903 she accompanied N II and AF to Pskov to attend the army maneuvers.
Grand Duchess Olga Alexandrovna states that while there, Empress Alexandra slipped and fell, breaking her arm. This is the first I have ever heard of this.
Does anyone know anything more about this?
On 6/19 August 1903, the Emperor wrote in his diary: "... At 10:30 we went to Pskov. ... We had dinner at 8 pm. We amused ourselves by going down the river on trays along the embankment. Alix hurt her hand when slipping from the stairway banister." [Translation by Stephen R. de Angelis]
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Re: Alexandra and her Health Part 2
« Reply #485 on: September 06, 2015, 12:22:07 PM »
I think people can be a bit harsh when assessing Alexandra, particularly when it comes to the issue of her health. Branding her as "insane" is rather cold and doesn't seem to take into account the fact this woman had an extremely tragic life.

Firstly, she loses both of her parents before she is 20. Secondly, she marries into a foreign court with and has to come to terms with a new religion, language, culture and court in a very short space of time. Thirdly, her physical health is generally poor. The speed at which she produced children would wear out most women since pregnancy, as any woman who has had children will tell you, can/is very taxing on the body. Then to put the cherry on the ill-tasting cake, her only son, the one who is supposed to one day rule an empire, has a debilitating illness that could kill him at any moment. The fact she passed it onto him probably made her feel even worse. I'm not surprised at all that Alix had a number of health issues both physically and mentally. I think people can be quite insensitive to her plight at times. I'm not saying Alix was a saint but recently I've come to believe that she was a sick woman who has been unfairly demonised both when she was alive and after her death. 

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Re: Alexandra and her Health Part 2
« Reply #486 on: September 06, 2015, 04:07:59 PM »
In "25 Chapters of My Life", p. 79, Grand Duchess Olga Alexandrovna recounts how in the summer or autumn of 1903 she accompanied N II and AF to Pskov to attend the army maneuvers.
Grand Duchess Olga Alexandrovna states that while there, Empress Alexandra slipped and fell, breaking her arm. This is the first I have ever heard of this.
Does anyone know anything more about this?
On 6/19 August 1903, the Emperor wrote in his diary: "... At 10:30 we went to Pskov. ... We had dinner at 8 pm. We amused ourselves by going down the river on trays along the embankment. Alix hurt her hand when slipping from the stairway banister." [Translation by Stephen R. de Angelis]

Wow! Great to get an answer to that question, even after the passage of some time! That's what I like about the AP Forum -- determination!
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Re: Alexandra and her Health Part 2
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Re: Alexandra and her Health Part 2
« Reply #488 on: July 28, 2016, 07:24:05 PM »
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I think people can be a bit harsh when assessing Alexandra, particularly when it comes to the issue of her health. Branding her as "insane" is rather cold and doesn't seem to take into account the fact this woman had an extremely tragic life.

Alexandra was almost certainly suffering from a rare genetic disease that she inherited through her mother, Princess Alice of Great Britain. This was a form of Porphyria (either Acute Intermittent Porphyria or Variegate Porphyria) and the disease is now known to have occurred in descendants of two of her mother's siblings: via Edward VII in Prince William of Gloucester, and via Princess Victoria, Empress of Germany, in her daughter Princess Charlotte and her granddaughter Princess Feodora of Reuss.

Porphyria was not recognised as a disease until early in the twentieth century, so Alexandra's doctors cannot be blamed for failing to diagnose it. Most patients suffer abdominal pain, sometimes with vomiting and constipation. They often suffer from limb, head, neck or chest pains, muscle weakness, tachycardia and to display mental symptoms. Patients can become hypersensitive, anxious, restless, insomniac, paranoid or depressed and, in some cases, have been labelled hysterical. The high incidence of AIP in psychiatric institutions shows how easy it is to misdiagnose the disorder. One of the problems in assessing the level of occurrence of AIP is that about 90% of people who carry the defective gene never display any symptoms. Variegate Porphyria is very similar to AIP except that photosensitivity is much more common. From pp 244-247 of "Purple Secret. Genes, 'Madness' and the Royal Houses of Europe, by Rohl, Warren and Hunt, 1998.

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Re: Alexandra and her Health Part 2
« Reply #489 on: July 29, 2016, 05:31:09 PM »
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Re: Alexandra and her Health Part 2
« Reply #490 on: November 14, 2017, 11:15:45 AM »
Alexandra and eyeglasses and six year old Olga's eye exams in 1902

The new fashion in 1800s. In summer, women used umbrellas to protect the eyes. How did they protect the eyes in winter?

http://winterpalaceresearch.blogspot.ca/2017/11/why-imperial-family-ban-on-wearing.html

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Re: Alexandra and her Health Part 2
« Reply #491 on: November 14, 2017, 01:32:51 PM »
Alexandra and eyeglasses and six year old Olga's eye exams in 1902

The new fashion in 1800s. In summer, women used umbrellas to protect the eyes. How did they protect the eyes in winter?

http://winterpalaceresearch.blogspot.ca/2017/11/why-imperial-family-ban-on-wearing.html

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So Olga had bad eyesight if she was visited multiple times by Alexandra's ophthalmologist during 1902. Did they improve after 1902?
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Re: Alexandra and her Health Part 2
« Reply #492 on: November 17, 2017, 10:19:11 AM »
So Olga had bad eyesight if she was visited multiple times by Alexandra's ophthalmologist during 1902. Did they improve after 1902?

The doctor continued to treat Olga in the Alexander Palace and Peterhof later in 1902 and after.

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Re: Alexandra and her Health Part 2
« Reply #493 on: November 17, 2017, 04:32:15 PM »
So Olga had bad eyesight if she was visited multiple times by Alexandra's ophthalmologist during 1902. Did they improve after 1902?

The doctor continued to treat Olga in the Alexander Palace and Peterhof later in 1902 and after.

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Until to a certain year or until they placed under house arrest/headed to Tobolsk?
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