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Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
« Reply #600 on: May 06, 2015, 02:51:52 PM »
Interesting to hear that the -ot diminutive in French, like in Charlot, is rather dated, in these Je suis Charlie times. Just like Charlot other diminutives have also taken on fixed identities of their own: Pierrot - and the double diminutive Guillotin (from Guillaume), which with a feminine ending, became the guillotine.

I wonder if the first ever recorded (royal) Charlotte was Charlotte de Bourbon (1388 - 1422), Queen of Cyprus. If so, funny coïncidence that she was the daughter of a Catherine - de Vendôme.

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Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
« Reply #601 on: May 06, 2015, 05:56:37 PM »
Well, as I said, "Charlie" is used by women named Charlotte as a short form of their names.  British singer Charli XCX's real named is Charlotte Emma Aitchison.
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Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
« Reply #602 on: May 07, 2015, 04:54:35 AM »
Indeed, Charlot is the French version of Charlie Chaplin.
Of course " Je suis Charlie " is linked to the name of the weekly satirical newspaper Charlie Hebdo. The tittle of this newspaper is itself linked to Charlie Brown (Snoopy) and also to Charles De Gaulle who was sometimes nicknamed either " Le Grand Charles " both beacause of his size and of his "achievment"s, or sometimes Charlie. I perfectly remember people saying Le Grand Charles (I am 60), not at all Charlie.

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Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
« Reply #603 on: May 07, 2015, 09:36:23 AM »
I can just see someone calling her Charlie and sparking an argument over how inappropriate it is to use nicknames for royals
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Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
« Reply #604 on: May 07, 2015, 05:28:03 PM »
Well, they call Charlotte' uncle "Harry" although his name is Henry.
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« Reply #605 on: May 08, 2015, 12:29:25 AM »
I can just see someone calling her Charlie and sparking an argument over how inappropriate it is to use nicknames for royals

Wasn't Charlie (or Charly) a nickname for Vicky's daughter, Charlotte?

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Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
« Reply #606 on: May 08, 2015, 09:14:34 AM »
I can just see someone calling her Charlie and sparking an argument over how inappropriate it is to use nicknames for royals

I think this has only been discussed with regard to royals who are dead, sainted and / or are truly historical figures instead of contemporary pop culture celebs.
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Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
« Reply #607 on: May 08, 2015, 05:28:14 PM »
They called Sarah Ferguson 'Fergie" all the time. 
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Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
« Reply #608 on: May 10, 2015, 02:17:25 PM »
I like the idea of calling Princess Charlotte "Lottie". another short form for Charlotte.

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Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
« Reply #609 on: May 10, 2015, 02:24:41 PM »
I like the idea of calling Princess Charlotte "Lottie". another short form for Charlotte.

I think the Sachsen-Coburg-Gotha-Battenbergs should call her Löttchen :-) After all, UKIP lost the election most overwhelmingly, so being ever so European = German is the feeling du jour.
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Берёзы севера мне милы,—
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Как речь безмолвная могилы,
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Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
« Reply #610 on: May 11, 2015, 12:51:22 AM »
Wildone asked
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Wasn't Charlie (or Charly) a nickname for Vicky's daughter, Charlotte?

Her family nickname was Ditta, but her grandmother Queen Victoria always referred to her as Charlotte.

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Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
« Reply #611 on: May 11, 2015, 02:08:19 AM »
I like the idea of calling Princess Charlotte "Lottie". another short form for Charlotte.

I think the Sachsen-Coburg-Gotha-Battenbergs should call her Löttchen :-) After all, UKIP lost the election most overwhelmingly, so being ever so European = German is the feeling du jour.

Well, that would go down like a ton of bricks in the UK
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Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
« Reply #612 on: May 11, 2015, 06:25:21 AM »
I think the Sachsen-Coburg-Gotha-Battenbergs should call her Löttchen :-) After all, UKIP lost the election most overwhelmingly, so being ever so European = German is the feeling du jour.

Well, that would go down like a ton of bricks in the UK

Yeah, Lol, 70 years after the war a Muslim name would probably be more acceptable than a German one. Well, partly because the unwashed masses are allowed to spew hate and vitriol at the Nazis Germans, but not at Muslims.
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Берёзы севера мне милы,—
Их грустный, опущённый вид,
Как речь безмолвная могилы,
Горячку сердца холодит.

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Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
« Reply #613 on: May 12, 2015, 05:08:42 PM »
I think Charlotte is a fine name for the new Royal.
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Re: Prince William and Catherine, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
« Reply #614 on: May 14, 2015, 11:11:33 AM »
I like the idea of calling Princess Charlotte "Lottie". another short form for Charlotte.

Now that would be very sweet! I can't wait for official photos of HRH. Some are saying that we may see some by the end of May as George's came out pretty soon after his birth and that her baptism will be in September. All speculation I'm sure, but events that I am eagerly awaiting all the same. :D
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