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Re: Georg Donatus of Hesse, and his family
« Reply #15 on: August 26, 2004, 11:03:47 AM »
I believe it was in Hessian Tapestry that it was stated that Cecile had indeed been pregnant and that, among the remains of those onboard, were the remains of the stillborn (i.e., expelled) baby. If someone has a copy of Hessian Tapestry on hand, perhaps they can verfiy or disprove this?


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Re: Georg Donatus of Hesse, and his family
« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2004, 04:55:37 PM »
Did I miss it here or could someone please list the names and ages of the little sons of Cecile and Georg please?

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Re: Georg Donatus of Hesse, and his family
« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2004, 12:36:40 AM »
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Did I miss it here or could someone please list the names and ages of the little sons of Cecile and Georg please?



1) Ludwig Ernst Andreas 25 Oct 1931- 16 Nov 1937
2) Alexander Georg Karl Heinrich 14 Apr 1933-16 Nov 1937
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Re: Georg Donatus of Hesse, and his family
« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2004, 10:06:25 AM »
I'd also like to add a prayer for the poor little baby Cecile was carrying who apparently was found in the wreckage.  :'(


George Donatus & Cecile on wedding day:



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Re: Georg Donatus of Hesse, and his family
« Reply #19 on: November 28, 2004, 05:22:46 PM »


Hesse-Darmstadt's last beloved  Princess Johanna..
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Re: Georg Donatus of Hesse, and his family
« Reply #20 on: November 29, 2004, 04:11:14 AM »
Thank you for sharing these photographs! They are the very first I've ever seen of Johanna. She was a beautiful child, like all the Hessian children!

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Re: Georg Donatus of Hesse, and his family
« Reply #21 on: December 09, 2004, 10:56:21 AM »
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Are there any belongings/personalia of lovely little Princess Joanna preserved?


I am sure there are items in the family archives - her playhouse still is extant at Langen .. I had the pleasure of being able to "play" in it - in the mid-80s.
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Re: Georg Donatus of Hesse, and his family
« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2004, 10:58:31 AM »
"I am always wearing black when flying".

It would have been black maternity dress as she was in an advanced stage of pregnancy, and gave birth during the crash.
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Re: Georg Donatus of Hesse, and his family
« Reply #23 on: December 09, 2004, 11:02:13 AM »
Janet,

Cecilia was most certainly pregnant at the time, and the pregnancy had been announced. The remains of a newly born stillborn child was found at the crash site - and there are references to this is in the news coverage of the day, including in the New York Times.
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Re: Georg Donatus of Hesse, and his family
« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2004, 11:58:32 AM »
one of the best descriptions of this harrowing accident is found in David Duff's opus, "Hessian Tapestry," hands down one of my favorite books, joined mong others by QVD, authored by a new member to this forum.

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« Reply #25 on: December 09, 2004, 12:31:12 PM »
Thank you, grandduchessella, for the info re: Johanna, and thanks also to Marie Pavlovna for the charming photo of that same little girl. As with the tragic demise of Princess Elisabeth some years earlier, Joanna's premature death reminds us that small children from that time--even those living in the most protected of circumstances--often were struck down by disease.

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« Reply #26 on: December 09, 2004, 01:29:33 PM »
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one of the best descriptions of this harrowing accident is found in David Duff's opus, "Hessian Tapestry," hands down one of my favorite books, joined mong others by QVD, authored by a new member to this forum.

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totally ot - I used to be David's researcher and stay with him in Diss in the 80s.  His house was filled with royal memorabilia.  He paid me for a bit of work with a signed photo of Queen Mary that used to hang over his toilet ... hey, there was not a bare spot on a wall in his house.
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Re: Georg Donatus of Hesse, and his family
« Reply #27 on: December 09, 2004, 09:26:22 PM »
thank you for your kind remarks.  

The playhouse was actually built for Princess Elisabeth in 1902. The Viennese architect Joseph Maria Olbrich designed it.  Architectural Digest published an article about the house in the 80s I think.  I have the article in front of me, but did not date, by accident.  It was after 1987.  Everything was built to a child's standard including a kitchen complete with crockery.  A sitting room too.  The princess died a year after the house was completed.  Her younger half brothers played in the house as did Georg's children.  Neighborhood children were also allowed to play in the house.  I got to play in it too as an adult.
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Re: Georg Donatus of Hesse, and his family
« Reply #28 on: March 14, 2005, 11:27:06 AM »
If I remember correctly, in finishing The Mountbattens by Richard Hough, it indicated that Johanna and Elisabeth were both buried in the Rosenhohe.  Is this correct, and if so, are they any pcitures of the children's graves?  Thanks!

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Re: Georg Donatus of Hesse, and his family
« Reply #29 on: March 19, 2005, 02:23:37 PM »
I was wondering why Georg had the last name of Donatus?

I know that the male Hesse line can be traced to the 4th century. Do they descend in "theory" directly from the man named Donatus who was the leader of a church group in North Africa? In 312 A.D. he and his followers split from the Roman Catholic church after a dispute over the election of a Bishop. The Emperor Constantine tolorated the movement and it was ended with the removal of Christianity from the african continent in about the 8th century.

I know that they descend from the Emperor Charlemange on the maternal side, but I have only seen it up to Mainier the Count of Sens (Duke of Austrasie?) who died about 800 A.D.

Does anyone know the direct male line past this?

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