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Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
« on: July 15, 2012, 07:48:45 AM »
Here's Part V.

Actually I'd like to close all threads on the Empress as nothing new has been said on her, always only the same topics. But I do understand the posters who want to continue the discussion (and the pictures, of course) and here's a new Part on Elisabeth. Possibly some new info is coming...

Please don't repeat the pictures and discussions. Soon the previous 4 Parts will be moderated again and I hope 30-50 pages of each Part come to end.

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Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2012, 02:06:47 PM »
Empress Sissi with Ferenc Deak, it is located at Gödöllo Palace. Is a really nice surprise to see that it is really a painting, the verssions that I saw of it before suggested that it was just a print!! If I'm not wrong it has been recently in restoration.


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Better verssion of this?
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Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2012, 12:37:44 PM »
Sissi and her namesake granddaughter Elisabeth "Ella", eldest daughter of Archduchess Marie Valerie
Russia cannot be grasped with the mind, or measured in feet and inches, for she has a special character: In Russia one can only believe. ~Fyodor Tyutchev.

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Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2012, 07:31:22 PM »
Empress Sissi with Ferenc Deak, it is located at Gödöllo Palace. Is a really nice surprise to see that it is really a painting, the verssions that I saw of it before suggested that it was just a print!! If I'm not wrong it has been recently in restoration.

Click here for bigger!!

Source: lenolaj.hu

Better verssion of this?


Yes, you're right. After the restoration it will be exhibited in the Gödöllő palace.
One more pic:






Read more here:
http://www.ng.hu/Civilizacio/2012/05/erzsebet_godollo
Sorry, sorry, it's in Hungarian. Maybe I'll write a longer post about the panting later...

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Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2012, 05:33:25 PM »
WOW! I open this thread to find some real gems being posted, thanks so much for posting. It great to see that the painting Yelena posted is in restoration.

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Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2012, 03:34:33 PM »
Thank you for the other views of Sissi's mourning portrait!!  :) Hope that you can give more info about the painting!
Sissi and family


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Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2012, 04:05:44 PM »
I cannot see what you just posted....strange! :(

I did a google translation on that article, and have got a rough idea of what it is trying to explain (so excuse some wrong grammar!)....

"2012th May 17, at noon in the Hungarian National Gallery building B, the so-called. blind to the huge frame was crucified, about five feet high, three and a half feet wide screen image. The National Museum of artworks owned by the revival after the Royal Palace issued. The plan will be a remarkable place, as the royal family's life will be located in a permanent exhibition.

The restoration was a big help to start the U.S. $ 1.4 million grant application by the Royal Palace operating company, in November 2011, won the National Cultural Museum Professional Kollégiumtól. The amount, however, is only the first renewal of the painting, conservation works on enough so that the authorities hope to continue to obtain the necessary financial support.

Ferenc Deák, the "wise man" died in January 1876. His body was in the ground floor lobby of the Hungarian Academy of ravatalozták, where I paid my tribute to Queen Elizabeth, also a wreath on his knees and prayed descending.

The next day, news of events in the press about cikkeztek that this pathetic scene would capture the poetic and picturesque manner. Trefort Augustine Religion and Education Minister instructed Mihály Zichy (1827-1906) painter, paintings capture a representative to the event.

Living in Paris at that time was not present Zichy Deak's funeral, but it can create a true image, traveled to Budapest. He met with the queen to make a sketch of it and have seen the event wore mourning, the funeral bier of the company was rebuilt in its original location. The artist has captured the moment in the painting, as the queen placing wreaths on the grave.

Mihaly Zichy Paris a year later he sent the picture, but is not shown to the public, because the artist has a cypress branch ráfestette is what Abraham Lincoln said Deak sent to the grave. This was unacceptable to the royal court, so Zichy had to paint the picture.

Completed in the summer of 1877 the "improved version" of Queen Elizabeth and the Deak Ferenc bier his oil paintings placed sixth in the National Museum Gallery hall, known as the Habsburg room for compromise as a symbol of continuity.

A picture of a time of the Hungarian Academy of Sciences issued, and then disappeared from public view. Deteriorated over time painting, now in the National Gallery's store was kept wrapped in a cylinder. History is history, art history information intended to convey ideas, which transfer to the museum's mission is Gödöllő."

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Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2012, 06:26:47 PM »
original state


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Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2012, 01:22:49 PM »
Jen, couldn't you see the last pic that I posted? I can see it perfectly, but I was looking that photobucket is having some problems since the last weekend, and among these problems many images can appear as missing, in fact, I'm having problems with my two accounts, but I expect that into a few days you can see the pic  ;)

Thank you very much for the translation, the story of that painting is really interesting, is quite nice to know that the painter in fact saw the Empress and then portrayed her -it means that the image of Sissi didn't come just of his imagination as in many of later portraits of Sissi- I didn't know that M. Zichy did it, he was an excellent artist!
Thank you dboro for the original state of the painting, it got really damaged with the time! Happily it is now in restoration!!

1) Modern portrait of Empress Sissi: here!!!

Source: erzsebet.gportal.hu

2) Miniature of Empress Sissi, although IMO she doesn't look much as her
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Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2012, 05:04:15 PM »
Now I can see it! It is a nice picture/family portrait! Thanks! I agree the minature does not look much like her, but it is nice and the hair looks like the hair she had in that familiar painting.

No problem! Yes, it most definitely is nice to know he saw the empress and didn't imagine the painting. Makes the painting seem more 'real' if you understand me.

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Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2012, 01:10:44 PM »
Sure, the miniature was based on Winterhalter's portrait but the artist didn't do a good job with Sissi's face :-/

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Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2012, 01:49:49 AM »

Today marks the 114th anniversary of the death of the Empress.
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Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2012, 02:49:54 PM »
The Empress arriving to Paris, year 1882



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Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2012, 03:05:34 PM »
If Elisabeth saw this image, i bet she fainted cause she looks ....curvy, thing that the empress hated !

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Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part V.
« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2012, 05:43:38 PM »
I agree with the above! The Empress' waist was so tiny, couldn't believe it when I saw the photo of her dress.