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Re: When people discovered?
« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2008, 02:12:46 PM »
If they didn't know the exact nature of his condition, they knew there was one by the time the heir was five.  He was carried at public appearances when well past carrying age, and there was always a husky sailor on hand to make sure he didn't do anything strenuous that might result in falling down.  That such a sick heir would make a weak ruler and affect the country was a great concern and a big factor in the revolution.  So, yes, it was during his life and there were direct results from it.

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Re: When people discovered?
« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2008, 02:26:15 PM »
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Re: When people discovered?
« Reply #17 on: July 31, 2008, 06:02:22 PM »
Thank you, FA and CorisCapnSkip, but when people in Russia knew it? I guess after their death, but people could see Heir he didn't walk at right, and may doubted something--just IMO.
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Re: When people discovered?
« Reply #18 on: August 05, 2008, 10:59:10 AM »
I think imo, that people would of had ideas that he was sickly,  as mentioned before he was still being carried around an age which seemed rather to old to be picked up.  In footage you can see him being carried around and it looks like he is 7 or 9.  Also as mentioned there was always a sailor nanny on hand in case something happened to him.
But it was suprising that it took them 8 years to figure out that Alexei had the condition.
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Re: When people discovered?
« Reply #19 on: August 19, 2008, 03:31:56 PM »
I think that when Aleksei had this major bleeding crisis in Spala, an official statement had to be released about the Heir's critical condition.
If I remember Gilliard says in his book that the whole country started to pray for the Heir.
Obviously, at this time, the New York Times knew.

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Re: When people discovered?
« Reply #20 on: November 24, 2008, 05:05:25 PM »
I think that when Aleksei had this major bleeding crisis in Spala, an official statement had to be released about the Heir's critical condition.
If I remember Gilliard says in his book that the whole country started to pray for the Heir.
Obviously, at this time, the New York Times knew.

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Re: When people discovered?
« Reply #21 on: November 24, 2008, 05:38:11 PM »
An Ukaze was issued by the Minister of the Court to pray for the health of the Tsetsarevich during the Spala crisis, however the cause of his illness was not publicly revealed in Russia.  However, the secret was far more well known in Russian than before.  The NY Times learned of the truth from a report in a British medical journal given by Alexei's doctors to their British colleagues.


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Re: hemophlia made public?
« Reply #22 on: August 06, 2016, 02:21:31 PM »
There is a long precedent in Russian history for hiding the truth about the health of their leaders.  When Peter III and Paul were assassinated, the official story given out was that they had died of "apoplexy."  (When Talleyrand heard that Paul had died of apoplexy, he remarked, "Russians should invent another illness to explain the deaths of their emperors.")  This even persists somewhat today, such as last year when Putin canceled a trip to Kazakhstan was not seen in public for over a week, and there were reports in the West that he had flu, but Putin's spokesman refused to comment on his health.  Even in the United States there is a tradition of this.  When President Grover Cleveland was diagnosed with verrucous carcinoma in 1893, the country was in the midst of a financial depression, and Cleveland feared that news he had cancer would create further panic, so he arranged to have secret surgery on board a borrowed yacht after it had put out to sea. The surgery was conducted through the president's mouth, to avoid any scars or other signs of surgery.  Following the operation, Cleveland went into hiding for the weekend, while a cover story was put out that he had had to have two bad teeth removed (this was not entirely untrue, as the doctors did remove parts of his upper left jaw in the process of excising the tumor).  In the same vein, even though FDR was widely known to be a polio victim, he hid the extent to which it had crippled him; it was only after his death that it became public knowledge that he had used a wheelchair.  Kennedy concealed his numerous health problems as well.
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