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Offline Kalafrana

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Re: Possible Marriage Candidates
« Reply #45 on: August 13, 2014, 03:32:54 AM »
Bulgaria was a German ally in WW1, though Russia and Bulgaria were traditionally friendly.

I think Boris would have been a good match for Olga - they were both kind and serious-minded. Krill was something of a playboy and never married.

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« Reply #46 on: January 13, 2018, 11:37:20 AM »
I know this thread is old but have we checked to see if any other royal couple considered Anastasia as a bride for one of their sons because:

If one is to believe all that one hears, Queen Alexandrine would be most happy if circumstances proved favourable to an alliance between her eldest son, the present Crown Prince of Denmark, and one of the younger daughters of her cousin the Tsar. Such an alliance would bring to her house a princess who, of all those whom her boy could marry, would be the one that Denmark would acclaim with the greatest joy.

The Royal Marriage Market of Europe, 1915.

If this is true then we know that Alexandrine had Maria and Anastasia down as suitable and likely spouses for her son.
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« Reply #47 on: January 14, 2018, 07:36:47 AM »
Such an alliance would bring to her house a princess who, of all those whom her boy could marry, would be the one that Denmark would acclaim with the greatest joy.
The Royal Marriage Market of Europe, 1915.

Princess Radziwill apparently knew nothing about the rapid progress of democratisation in Denmark, from Christian IX's acceptance of parliamentary government (instead of royally appointed cabinets) in 1901 (Systemskiftet - the Change of System) to Christian X's failure to appoint a lasting extra-parliamentary cabinet that would work aggressively towards incorporating Flensburg into Denmark (Påskekrisen - the Easter Crisis) in 1920. In such an atmosphere the crown prince's marriage to a daughter of Europe's most vilified autocrat would not be acclaimed with great joy, at least not by the urban working class and rural crofters - groups which in this period were rather anti-monarchical, but which the Danish monarchy later were able to ingratiate itself with and become popular with.

Of course Maria or Anastasia had the following arguments in favour of themselves:
- Granddaughters of Denmark's great pride, Maria Fyodorovna.
- Representatives of a great anti-German power that could secure a substantial chunk of or all of South Jutland returning to Denmark.

But their father's bloody reputation probably outshone these arguments.

It should be noted that Queen Alexandrine, although born to a Russian mother and from one of Germany's most reactionary, backwards and feudal monarchies, integrated herself very well in the rather different Danish political reality, both ideologically and nationally.
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Re: Possible Marriage Candidates
« Reply #48 on: January 15, 2018, 02:27:08 AM »
I'm not going to take issue with those points, but how well would a marriage between Frederik and either Marie or Anastasia have worked on a personal level?

I don't know a great deal about Frederik, except that he was a fine figure of a man (6ft 3 and approaching rugby player build), keen on conducting and had numerous tattoos.

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« Reply #49 on: January 15, 2018, 08:52:44 AM »
I'm not going to take issue with those points, but how well would a marriage between Frederik and either Marie or Anastasia have worked on a personal level?

I don't know a great deal about Frederik, except that he was a fine figure of a man (6ft 3 and approaching rugby player build), keen on conducting and had numerous tattoos.

Apparantly he was a warm, fun-loving man, but content with a simple, happy home life and not desiring to play any part in big affairs. Queen Ingrid was the more reserved strategist and "brain" of the family. Frederik IX personified the jolly gay but fundamentally decent Denmark of the 1950s and the liberated 1960s very well. I think Maria and Anastasia would have found a kindred soul in him, whereas Olga and Tatiania would have longed for more serious-minded stimulation. Though opposites attract, as evidenced by his marriage to Ingrid.

It should also be noted that allegedly the home life of Christian X and Alexandrine ressembled that of his aunt and uncle Maria Fyodorovna and Alexander III: The father had terrible rages that made the whole family tip-toe around the home autocrat. The stiff,  uptight and uncultured Christian X did not suffer from alcoholism, but did also not have Alexander III's bear-like, loving informality, but the mood in the family is said to have been stiff and repressed, something which gave Frederik IX a desire to build quite another type of loving and affectionate home life.

Christian X and his brother Haakon VII did share the same staunch moral fibre, but Haakon had early gone into the navy and learned tolerance, humour and a liberal outlook on things from his fellow sailors, instructors and their families. Christian had stayed at home and been shaped by the arch-conservative and provincial officer corps of the Danish army. By choosing (against his father's wishes) to become a naval officer instead of an army officer, Frederik IX openly rejected his father's ways.
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Re: Possible Marriage Candidates
« Reply #50 on: January 15, 2018, 09:51:34 AM »
I do remember a nice story about Frederik from a policeman who accompanied George VI and Winston Churchill on an official visit to Denmark soon after Frederik's accession. The unpretentious monarch dropped by as King George's valet was busy pressing the royal trousers, and, noticing the tattoos on his arms, rolled up his sleeves to show his own, adding, 'And I've some nice ones on my chest as well'.

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