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Offline bernard_timbal

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Ipatiev House destruction pictures
« on: August 19, 2013, 08:38:32 AM »
Hi all
By chances, I found 10 very interesting pictures of Ipatiev house destruction and I would like to share with you
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Re: Ipatiev House destruction pictures
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2013, 09:22:56 AM »
Thank you for sharing the photographs. I have never seen any of these before.

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« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2013, 10:43:58 AM »
Me neither. Terrific stuff, thank you! I must admit to getting a little excited as a scroll down and see it being demolished. I would like to include a picture of what stands there now...risen from its ashes...



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Re: Ipatiev House destruction pictures
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2013, 05:08:33 PM »
Excellent -- and all new to me, too!
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Re: Ipatiev House destruction pictures
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2013, 05:16:47 PM »
Which also refutes the earlier false reports that the house was torn down under the cover of darkness, and in one night.

We know people who stood on the Voznesensky Cathedral hill and watched.
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Re: Ipatiev House destruction pictures
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2013, 05:50:02 PM »
I must say I find the picture of the demolition of IH depressing. Maybe it's the drab black and white photos (greyish ,really) or the high Soviet era grimness, and of course the reality of the soviet attempted destruction of its past history.

Fortunately  this is offset quite a bit by the beauty of the present  day gem of the Church On The Blood, including those blowup photos of the members of the Imperial Family. Apparently they change occasionally because I've seen the near-iconic  informal one of OTMA from around '03 or '04  (outdoors in front of a tree).

Nice discovery, bernard_timbal.
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Re: Ipatiev House destruction pictures
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2013, 06:16:16 PM »
I'm of two minds that the house isn't there anymore. On one hand I'd be fascinated to walk through their final home, on the other I think it would be disrespectful for people to be roaming through the murder room every day. I'm glad we still have the Tobolsk house, though.
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Re: Ipatiev House destruction pictures
« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2013, 01:41:58 AM »
Yes , was not 1 night but 3 days at least from what I heard.
There are other photos around of cranes with wrecking balls etc and the of the site when the fence was going up and the site after cleanup.
It's kind of ironic that , that was the second fence erected around the site.........
Locals "souveniured" bits of the house too , bricks , timber ,cornices , stair balistrades , fireplace etc etc , some of it is in the museums. Who knows how much was "stolen" over the years and still in private possession.

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Re: Ipatiev House destruction pictures
« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2013, 01:50:59 AM »
The first & last photo you posted was taken much earlier when the house was the "Museum to the Revolution" in the 1920/30's.
Here's some more demolition era photos.I've seen others but I dont have copies of them.









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Re: Ipatiev House destruction pictures
« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2013, 02:06:45 AM »
Back in the 90's before "The church on the blood" was erected there was even a plan to build a cathedral modelled after Ipatiev house ( see photo below).
I dont know why it was scrapped - perhaps it was seen as "bad taste" ??

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Re: Ipatiev House destruction pictures
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2013, 07:37:36 AM »
Back in the 90's before "The church on the blood" was erected there was even a plan to build a cathedral modelled after Ipatiev house ( see photo below).
I dont know why it was scrapped - perhaps it was seen as "bad taste" ??


This would have been interesting, although I think they made the right decision by building the church instead. What I find somewhat disappointing are the stated reasons to why it was demolished in the first place. It was declared not to have 'sufficient historical significance' which certainly isn't true, and somewhat contradicted by Boris Yeltsin's (then a committee secretary) statement that, "sooner or later we will be ashamed of this piece of barbarism."

Does anyone else find the quality of these demolition photos odd? The house was razed in 1977, but from these photos you'd think it was torn down around 1918. Don't get me wrong, the pictures are terrific and certainly clear...they just seem strangely old.

 
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Re: Ipatiev House destruction pictures
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2013, 03:31:50 PM »
Back in the 90's before "The church on the blood" was erected there was even a plan to build a cathedral modelled after Ipatiev house ( see photo below).
I dont know why it was scrapped - perhaps it was seen as "bad taste" ??


This would have been interesting, although I think they made the right decision by building the church instead. What I find somewhat disappointing are the stated reasons to why it was demolished in the first place. It was declared not to have 'sufficient historical significance' which certainly isn't true, and somewhat contradicted by Boris Yeltsin's (then a committee secretary) statement that, "sooner or later we will be ashamed of this piece of barbarism."

Does anyone else find the quality of these demolition photos odd? The house was razed in 1977, but from these photos you'd think it was torn down around 1918. Don't get me wrong, the pictures are terrific and certainly clear...they just seem strangely old.

 

I hadn't until you drew my attention to it. But now, yes, especially the top and bottom ones from woody's last group of four. The bottom one looks like sepia tones , which have been out of  photo fashion for a minimum of a half century, probably longer. I've seen the top one before. The others by woody and bernard are new to me and I suspect not meant for  widespread circulation, or weren't before the fall of communism there in 1991.
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Re: Ipatiev House destruction pictures
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2013, 05:57:43 AM »
Here are some more photos from my home computer for anyone who is interested.

Demolition

More demolition.

Looking across to Kharitonov palace after demolition.

Another looking across road.

Looking to site from Ascension cathedral belltower.

The well from the Ipatiev house still exists in the basement of new Church on the Blood. This is where original investigators Sokolov / Dietrichs etc looked for Romanov items.

House as Museum of Revolution.

Side view before demolition.

Picture showing small shrine which is located in the position of the altar of the original Ascension church - demolished in 1800's before Ipatiev house was built.

During 1990's when foundation for Church on the Blood was being dug.Some skeletons were found which created a 'stir' but were
subsequently found to be from the graveyard of the old Ascension Church which was on the site before Ipatiev house was built.



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Re: Ipatiev House destruction pictures
« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2013, 12:37:21 AM »
Incredible thread! Thank you one and all

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Re: Ipatiev House destruction pictures
« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2013, 05:52:16 PM »
I'm glad that house is gone.  As Kelly said, the thought of tourists trooping through just turns my stomach.
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