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Re: King Alexander I & Aspasia Manos
« Reply #30 on: February 20, 2005, 11:17:51 AM »
Blood poisoning is highly deadly, more so back in those years and in a country like Greece where sanitation was not as commonplace it was only worst.

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Re: King Alexander I & Aspasia Manos
« Reply #31 on: February 20, 2005, 01:05:13 PM »
Does anyone have any other picture or even a portrait of Princess Alexandra?I find her very beautiful!She tried to kill herself 4 times because of her husband!  :(

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Re: King Alexander I & Aspasia Manos
« Reply #32 on: February 21, 2005, 08:45:11 PM »
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king Alexander died on 25 October 1920. He was 27 years-old. He left his wife Princess Aspasia pregnant. She gave birth to their child, Alexandra on 25 March 1921 (5 months after Alexander's death).




Princess Alexandra was the only greek royal member to have greek blood.......

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Re: King Alexander I & Aspasia Manos
« Reply #33 on: February 22, 2005, 01:38:50 AM »
And Queen Anne of Great Britain was the last English monarch with English blood, at least until Elizabeth II, who is the daughters of a Scotswoman with English ancestry...so your point is?

George V (1865-1936) was accused by disgusting politicians of not being English...he was insulted by this statement...for had his family not live din Briatin for more than two centuries already...doesn't that make you English?

I wa snot born in the USA...I chose to come to the USA to study and later to build a life for myself here, giving up the comforts I was raised with...it was my choice...and indeed as an American by choice I would be terribly insulted if someone says to me that I am not one...now imagine how my great-great-grandchildren would feel if in the year 2065, for example, someone told them they were not American because their great-great-grandfather was not born in the USA?  Birth is an accident that can provide nationality...I made a conscious choice to adopt my new country's nationality.

The fact that the Greek royal family finds its roots in Schleswig-Holstein and not Mount Athos or Thessaly...does it make them less Greek than any other Greek today...given that the family lived in and led the country for more than a century...I believe His Majesty feels as Greek as Niarchos or Onassis, if not more so.

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Re: King Alexander I & Aspasia Manos
« Reply #34 on: February 22, 2005, 06:15:35 AM »
Of course he does and it's very good,but the people don't feel him Greek and that's why they don't like him in Greece...

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« Reply #35 on: February 22, 2005, 09:33:45 AM »
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Of course he does and it's very good,but the people don't feel him Greek and that's why they don't like him in Greece...


I wouldn't make such a sweeping statement. Obviously there are a large number of people who don't want a monarchy there--but there are also many many people in Greece (as well as Greeks living abroad) devoted to the Royal Family. In the channel 5 interview with King Constantine earlier this year, he showed his icon collection, all of which were sent to him by loyal Greeks.

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Re: King Alexander I & Aspasia Manos
« Reply #36 on: February 22, 2005, 09:40:18 AM »
His Majesty made a political blunder in 1967, a mistake that put an end to a reign that started among much promise.  He was young and inexperienced, at a time when the country needed the steady hand of someone like his late father...alas destiny...

However, in Greece the royal family always provided a degree of constancy that the political class was never able to provide for the people.

The plebiscite was not an excercise in democracy within the cradle of democracy...it was nothing but a disgusting fraud in which the monarchy anf its supporters were obstructed from partitipating openly and allowing them to rally in defense of the institution.  It was yet another shameful act from a brankrupt political class responsible for always getting Greece into muddles, and then when things did not go as planned turning around and laying all the blame on the monarchical institution.

King Constantine is as Greek as any Greek will ever be...and yes he receives thousands and thousands of letters, packages and presents from his supporters in Greece, a sham democracy that up to very recently still had political exile in force...a democracy having political exiles?  Really...

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Re: King Alexander I & Aspasia Manos
« Reply #37 on: February 22, 2005, 10:53:35 AM »
Despite what King Constantine considers himself, the fact is, most Greeks-inside Greece- have no fondness for him or his family. Arturo, you are aware that this goes way back to the begining of the Greelk monarchy and has, for the most part been political propaganda by the opposition with no pretence of being "loyal" There are, indeed supporters in the country, but they are a distinct minority. I know it is ridiculous, but some even blame him for the rule of the generals! My own family [grand parents] were ferevent supporters but their best friends were equally anti.  I think the king has much more support from ex-pats than at home. Some of the trashy things I have heard said about them are not worth repeating.  Personally, I kind of like the guy, but I see not hope for any sort of restoration.
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Re: King Alexander I & Aspasia Manos
« Reply #38 on: February 23, 2005, 09:51:28 AM »
I do not see any hope of restoration either...although there are those who faifthfully see it as possible...I guess in topsy-turvy Greek politics anything can happen...but I just don't see it though.

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Re: King Alexander I & Aspasia Manos
« Reply #39 on: February 23, 2005, 11:14:18 AM »
Not just her husband...Alexandra suffered from depression and that is a genetic condition, not solely blamed on her husband.

She also did not enjoy a good relationship with her only son and Alexander and Alexandra seemed to be quite at loggerheads for any years.  I have read dreadful things said between them.

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« Reply #40 on: February 23, 2005, 05:16:27 PM »
I have also heard that he persuaded her to come to London and that he would take care of her...When she came,he sold her villa in Venice and put her into some kind of sanatorium!That's just what I have heard!Doesn't mean it has to be true!

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Re: King Alexander I & Aspasia Manos
« Reply #41 on: February 23, 2005, 06:23:27 PM »
I think Alexander was incredibly attractive. I also find his short, troubled reign and tragic death to be quite interesting. The death of course being very sad as well.

This is my favorite photo of him. This one I found on the net but a lovely copy, sans the writing, appears in a recent issue of Majesty magazine.


A quick question~
Does anyone know what Alexander was called as a child and young man by his family, esp. Sophie? I mean did he have a nick name or Greek diminutive? I have also never heard of any being used but I have never read any private correspondance mentioning him either.
I know that private letters can often be the best and most legitimate place to find out about family or pet names and such. Just curious.
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Re: King Alexander I & Aspasia Manos
« Reply #42 on: February 23, 2005, 07:48:38 PM »
Majesty used this photo from Elleniki Dinasteia (Hellenic Dynasty) the book co-authored by Prince Michael of Greece last year, when they did a promo for it last year...a marvelous volume by the way...even though it is only available in Greek.  As far as I know the only bookstore selling it in the USA is Eurohistory.  I fetched a large number of copies in Greece last June and we are almost sold out.

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« Reply #43 on: February 23, 2005, 09:45:01 PM »
Yes I could not remember the name of the book. It does look interesting.
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Re: King Alexander I & Aspasia Manos
« Reply #44 on: February 26, 2005, 05:30:32 AM »
Is there anywhere picture of his daughter Alexandra wearing a tiara?