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Doubleheaded Eagle Badge by Faberge?
« on: May 20, 2014, 01:11:36 PM »
Hi everyone, I am new to this site and find it very interesting with lots of the different topics, but have yet to find any information on what I have. 2 years ago whilst walking my dogs over a ploughed,  field I found a silver Russian doubleheaded eagle, with the stamp of Faberge, 88 kokoshnick headdress facing right, also it has inscribed on the back V1, M U and a name which is in Russian.  I have spent a long time researching it but have yet to complete all. So far I have been told the drawings were done by Faberge in 1913, V1 was the major general whom perhaps it was commissioned for but cannot find the name of the general. in English it is Ryabukha. Is there anyone out there who could help with my quest. I would be very very grateful for any help. Thank-you.  Heidi.  
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Re: Doubleheaded Eagle
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2014, 02:44:23 PM »
Clear photos would be very useful if possible.

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Re: Doubleheaded Eagle
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2014, 06:28:52 PM »
I will upload some new photos tomorrow as the old ones I have I cannot send them across. Sorry about that.

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Re: Doubleheaded Eagle
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2014, 10:46:34 PM »
You can't upload to our forum. The have to be at a hosted site like photobucket or snapfish

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Re: Doubleheaded Eagle
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Re: Doubleheaded Eagle
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2014, 03:51:27 PM »
It works. Afraid I can't be of much help. Someone will know the order

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Re: Doubleheaded Eagle
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2014, 04:02:26 PM »
2 years ago whilst walking my dogs over a ploughed,  field I found a silver Russian doubleheaded eagle

Interesting! This is more intriguing and like a real mystery than all the my-granny-was-Anastasia-even-though-I-have-no-proof-whatsoever stories!

If you don't mind me asking, was it in a region where it might have dropped off, left by or buried with Russian troops in WW1 or some other war or was it in a region with no connection to Russia?
« Last Edit: May 21, 2014, 04:04:01 PM by Превед »
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(Афанасий Фет: Ивы и березы, 1843 / 1856)

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Re: Doubleheaded Eagle
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2014, 05:05:35 PM »
Hi thank-you for your interest, I found it in a field in Wiltshire, England, I know nothing of Russians being in the area, although from what I have found out there was a search and rescue near by, although that has not told me much, it is a complete mystery to me also. When I found it I thought it was a motor bike badge. For 2 years I have on and off been researching it. I took it to London Christies, the Russian department told me the name translated in English was Ryabukha.  Faberge.com told me the drawings were done in 1913, and Wartski in London said if we are to believe you found it in a field and there is no reason not to believe, then it is genuine. This is why the only hope I really have is tracing the name on the wing and it is 1V marked also  which is maybe a Major General not V1 as I mistakenly put. Any help would be truly amazing as I think it is very rare. Thank-you.

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Re: Doubleheaded Eagle
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2014, 05:31:38 PM »
the Russian department told me the name translated in English was Ryabukha.

Рябуха / Ryabukha seems to be the name of a disease of tobacco plants and a Soviet-era Kazakh poet. But there are several places called some variety of the name, like Ryabukhino, so Ryabukhin is a family name. Ryabukha seems to be a not uncommon variety, though the -kha ending sounds un-Russian, definetely Ukrainian.
« Last Edit: May 21, 2014, 05:37:07 PM by Превед »
Березы севера мне милы,
Их грустный, опущённый вид,
Как речь безмолвная могилы,
Горячку сердца холодит.

(Афанасий Фет: Ивы и березы, 1843 / 1856)

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Re: Doubleheaded Eagle
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2014, 08:12:56 PM »
If you look at the 3rd letter it is more like a d rather than a b would that be the same sounding letter?  If not the name sounding is different is it not?  But the ending is the same so do you think the name maybe Ukrainian and not Russian as I had thought it to be?  Thank-you for your much appreciated help.

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Re: Doubleheaded Eagle
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2014, 05:29:27 AM »
If you look at the 3rd letter it is more like a d rather than a b would that be the same sounding letter?  If not the name sounding is different is it not?  But the ending is the same so do you think the name maybe Ukrainian and not Russian as I had thought it to be?  Thank-you for your much appreciated help.

A Cyrillic б (b) might easily look like a d (д), especially if the name is in cursive: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_cursive
Ryadukha seems to be a very rare name.
NB note that if the name is Ukrainian it can also be transliterated as Ryabuha.


Yes, the name must be of Ukrainian (in Imperial times known as Little Russian, malorusskiy) origin. Do note that Little Russia / Ukraina was only a cultural, not a political entity in the Russian Empire and Ukrainians served in the military on the same level as Great Russians. But Ukrainia (and the South Russian areas around the Black Sea) had many Cossacks and Cossack military units and they often have somewhat odd surnames.
« Last Edit: May 22, 2014, 05:31:11 AM by Превед »
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Re: Doubleheaded Eagle
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2014, 09:10:21 AM »
I don't see a "1V" mark.  I do see "No. 920 T.E" on the left and "Ryabuzhka" on the right.  The fellow's name was clearly "T.E. Ryabuzhka" and the order was number 920 in a series most likely.  I'm moving this over to the Imperial Military section, as I think it's honestly more a question of "what" it was used for and "who" it belonged to than it being Faberge.  I have little doubt of it being genuine.  How it ended up in an English field must be an intriguing story we will likely never discover!


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Re: Doubleheaded Eagle Badge by Faberge?
« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2014, 12:49:39 PM »


Hi, Thank-you all ever so much for shedding some light on this huge amount of history on such a small object. Just to mention the 1V, is very faint on the left wing by the 920.


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Re: Doubleheaded Eagle Badge by Faberge?
« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2014, 04:58:43 PM »
That isn't "1V". That is "N" in script, short for Number