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Re: Duke Alfred of Edinburgh (1844-1900) and his family
« Reply #510 on: April 12, 2007, 03:11:38 PM »
I had never seen a picture of Alfred as an older person.  He looks so much like Edward VII. 

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Re: Duke Alfred of Edinburgh (1844-1900) and his family
« Reply #511 on: April 12, 2007, 03:48:21 PM »
Yes, he did once his drinking and smoking caught up to him and helped to sadly erode his youthful good looks.

The portrait hangs in Coburg, I believe, and was painted once he had become Duke in 1893.
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« Reply #512 on: April 16, 2007, 04:58:34 AM »
I believe I read someone that in his youth Alfred was considered the best looking of all Queen Victoria's sons.

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Re: Duke Alfred of Edinburgh (1844-1900) and his family
« Reply #513 on: April 16, 2007, 10:31:05 AM »
After Alfred became Duke of Saxe-Couburg-Gotha what was his style and title? 

Was he:

HRH The Duke of Saxe-Couburg-Gotha and of Edinburgh
HGDH The Duke of Saxe-Couburg-Gotha and of Edinburgh

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Re: Duke Alfred of Edinburgh (1844-1900) and his family
« Reply #514 on: April 16, 2007, 10:31:40 AM »
I'm sure he was HRH.
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« Reply #515 on: April 16, 2007, 10:40:14 AM »
So HGDH is below a HRH?  I am correct in guessing it was used for children of Grand Dukes who were not also HRH's? 

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« Reply #516 on: April 16, 2007, 04:45:07 PM »
Yes, it was used (for example) for Grand Duke Ludwig and Princess Alice's children, as far as I know. The Grand Duke/Duchess were HRH, while the Grand Duke's children and siblings were HGDH.
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« Reply #517 on: May 20, 2007, 03:26:37 AM »
As an aside,has it been noted that when Prince Alfred was a young man in the Royal Navy visiting Australia he was shot by an Irishman?The Prince fell to the ground calling out'I am shot in the back and shall die'.However he recovered and the irishman was hung.
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« Reply #518 on: May 20, 2007, 05:26:59 AM »
Yes that's true. And the Royal Prince Alfred Hospital was named after him, which is one of the biggest hospitals in Australia.
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Re: Duke Alfred of Edinburgh (1844-1900) and his family
« Reply #519 on: May 20, 2007, 03:18:08 PM »
Regarding the shooting, here's the wikipedia entry:

"On March 12, 1868, on his second visit to Sydney while picnicking in the beachfront suburb of Clontarf, he was wounded in the back by a revolver fired by Henry James O'Farrell. The Prince was shot just to the right of his spine, and was tended for the next two weeks by six Florence Nightingale trained nurses led by Matron Lucy Osburn who were newly arrived in Australia (February 1868). On the evening of 23 March 1868, the most influential people of Sydney voted for a memorial building to be erected, “to raise a permanent and substantial monument in testimony of the heartfelt gratitude of the community at the recovery of HRH”. This led to a public conscription which paid for the Royal Prince Alfred Hospital's construction. Prince Alfred soon recovered from his injury and was able to resume command of his ship and return home in early April 1868. Henry James O'Farrell was arrested at the scene, quickly tried, convicted and hanged on 21 April 1868." This was despite Prince Alfred's attempts to intercede to save his would-be killer, and his questionable state of mind.

I believe O'Farrell was a Fenian. He is the first recorded man in Australia's history to attempt a political assassination.  Immediately before the attempt he had been released from a mental asylum. "O'Farrell first claimed, falsely, to be under orders from the Fenian Brotherhood though he was violently anti-British and anti-Royalist, he denied being a Fenian." (wikipedia)

Here's a link to the story of the assassination attempt:

http://www.shoalhaven.net.au/~cathyd/history/prince.html
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Re: Duke Alfred of Edinburgh (1844-1900) and his family
« Reply #520 on: May 20, 2007, 05:00:05 PM »
O'Farrell was a Fenian, yes.  They certainly wasted no time in disposing of him after he was found guilty, did they?  These days he'd probably get a "community-based order" and the court would be subjected to days of evidence about his "dysfunctional" family background.  O, how times have changed!  ::) ;)
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Re: Duke Alfred of Edinburgh (1844-1900) and his family
« Reply #521 on: January 12, 2010, 11:25:39 AM »
 Well I think Alfred was a little bitt misunderstand....he was the second son....he had the wife that he have....I don't know...
  But one thing I know for sure..he is my favorite son of QV. And I think his daughers,especially Ducky really resembels him.
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Re: Duke Alfred of Edinburgh (1844-1900) and his family
« Reply #522 on: July 06, 2010, 01:49:15 PM »
Young and handsome


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