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I Want to Write a novel
« on: September 07, 2014, 09:25:31 PM »
A novel    about  Alexei   being Emperor    any  idea how   He would've   confronted  Hitler

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« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2014, 11:20:55 PM »
That's the fun part. Since we're dealing in fiction you can shape Alexei the adult and Tsar and any way you see fit. How, by the way, are you explaining Alexei's rise to power in the first place? I assume the family gets saved in some sort of rescue effort and the White Army, who winds up being victorious in the Civil Warm elects the former-Tsarevich as the new Tsar. Doesn't seem very likely to me, but whatever, it's your story.

I've always felt that Alexei, while not terribly well educated for a boy of his social standing, was intelligent and clever in a way his father never was. I think he could have made a wiser Tsar than Nicholas, but not necessarily a stronger one. He was after all his father's son, and I don't get the sense that his views would have wound up all that more progressive. Of course if his role was reduced to Constitutional Monarch he would already have been forced to cede power and probably liberalize his views some. The spectra of sudden death from hemophilia must always have hung over his head. This might also have shaped Alexei's views as well.

Far as any confrontation with Hitler is concerned, I think your best step is to look at each of the steps taken by Stalin in the years leading up to Germany's May, 1941 invasion of the Soviet Union, including of course the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact which turned out not being worth the ink used on the paper it was signed on. Would Alexei have agreed to do 'X & Y' and even if he did, how might he handled relations differently than Stalin? These are important questions to ask oneself assuming you're playing out WW2 as it did, and not as it might have had the political situation in Russia been much different way back in 1918/19.
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Re: I Want to Write a novel
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2014, 12:12:22 AM »
Thank you for your help im having it   were  they were spilt up  Nicholas  II  On rail  in Moscow  (minus Tsaritsa and Daughters  )  he is pronounced Guilty   shot  meanwhile When Revolutionst  try to take  Tsarskoe  Selo      Imperial Guards  with an American Contingent   over   take them and kill them    they inform  them all that Alexei   is now Alexei II  of Russia   with    Alexandra as regent  he  reforms the System  Autocatic -Liberalism  builds new roads   schools   trial by jury   and a Real Parliament   Empress Alexandra  goes into retirement  living in  Alexander Palace as  a Nun

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Re: I Want to Write a novel
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2014, 07:41:40 AM »
Just want to say I wish you the best of luck with this. Aleksei is a person I am deeply passionate about as well, and love when novelists (like myself) try to capture what he could have been like. I haven't even tried making him a main character in anything I've done for fear of dishonoring or disrespecting him in some way... who knows, maybe that will change someday and I'll gain the confidence necessary to do so. Til then, as I said, best of luck to you.

One thing I will say is I believe he would have been a compassionate ruler towards his people. He had great compassion in reality, as evidenced by some of the anecdotes I've read about him (factual, not legend). So my advice is to capture that compassion first and foremost.

Good luck to you again. Please keep me posted on your progress! If you like, I could even assist in critiquing and editing.
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Re: I Want to Write a novel
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2014, 09:53:53 AM »
A novel    about  Alexei   being Emperor    any  idea how   He would've   confronted  Hitler

Perhaps he would have allied himself and Russia with Hitler's Germany? It could make for an interesting internal conflict: Alexey, despite feeling very Russian, was of mostly Germanic heritage (and a descendant of Rurik, the Norse founder of the Russian state). Thus he was an actual example of Hitler's theories of Aryan Germans ruling over Slavs. But at the same time he was severely disabled with a genetic defect, what Hitler would have branded "degenerate". How would he have felt about allying Russia, for the sake of peace, to a German regime that would have gassed him if he wasn't the emperor? Perhaps his grandmother's trusted friend Marshall Mannerheim, President of Finland, allied with Germany during WW2, would have had something wise to say on that matter.

What were Alexey's feelings about Poland, the revived country between Russia and Poland. Would he have been happy to repartition Poland with Germany? Did he feel Pan-Slavic about the Poles? Did he have a horror of Poland after Spała and Franciszka Czenstkowska (although admittedly she would probably not have risen to fame if Alexey was saved.)

Many interesting ways to take things - good luck with your story!



Берёзы севера мне милы,—
Их грустный, опущённый вид,
Как речь безмолвная могилы,
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(Афанасий Фет: «Ивы и берёзы», 1843 / 1856)

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Re: I Want to Write a novel
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2014, 10:34:51 AM »
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Thank you for your help im having it   were  they were spilt up  Nicholas  II  On rail  in Moscow  (minus Tsaritsa and Daughters  )  he is pronounced Guilty   shot  meanwhile When Revolutionst  try to take  Tsarskoe  Selo      Imperial Guards  with an American Contingent   over   take them and kill them    they inform  them all that Alexei   is now Alexei II  of Russia   with    Alexandra as regent  he  reforms the System  Autocatic -Liberalism  builds new roads   schools   trial by jury   and a Real Parliament   Empress Alexandra  goes into retirement  living in  Alexander Palace as  a Nun
 

Your idea has a lot of merit, in fact, if you've read Days Of OTMA's Lives, you'll see some similar ones (the ending of the Autocracy, for example).  Alternate histories are fun.

However, if you have a Real Parliament, then they, and whomever was Prime Minister, would be dealing with Hitler.  If Alexei becomes a figurehead, like the British Monarch, they he would have no say in Foreign Policy.  He could advise, but not command.  

Good luck with this novel.   It sounds fascinating.
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Re: I Want to Write a novel
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2014, 10:53:20 AM »
It's a great idea of novel and a fascinating topic.  I'm looking forward to reading it.
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Re: I Want to Write a novel
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2014, 01:11:52 PM »
However, if you have a Real Parliament, then they, and whomever was Prime Minister, would be dealing with Hitler.  If Alexei becomes a figurehead, like the British Monarch, they he would have no say in Foreign Policy.  He could advise, but not command.

The thing is, it would be highly unlikely for Russia to make the jump from autocracy to parliamentary monarchy with just a stroke of the pen. Remember that it took hundreds of years, incuding several civil wars and revolutions, for parliamentary monarchy to develop in Britain. During a what-if reign of an Emperor Alexey II, Russia would probably have experienced some of the same conflicts that central European countries such as Finland, Poland, Hungary, Germany, Italy, Romania etc. experienced in the unstable interwar years. I.e. conflicts between parliament and a (strong) executive and often conflict between the official head of state (president or monarch) and authoritarian, populist leaders.

Poland under Marshall Piłsudski is an interesting example of how a democracy born out of Wilson's 14 points of national self-determination struggled with authoritarian tendencies, not at least because Piłsudski himself is interesting, as a conservative statesman once persecuted by the Tsarist authorities (just like Finland's first President Svinhufvud) because he had been a member of Narodnaya Volya and been plotting to blow up Alexander III.

With the parliamentarian systems and leaders often quite weak, it was often up to the heads of state / monarchs (Vittorio Emanuele III in Italy, Carol II of Romania, Boris III of Bulgaria, George II of Greece, Haakon VII of Norway) to deal with foreign threats such as Hitler personally. If they did, they ran the task of embroiling the crown in dangerous party politics, if they didn't, some local Mussolini was more than willing to do it on behalf of them.

That would have been the dillemma Alexey II would have been faced with. I don't think British constutional monarchy above party lines would have been a viable option in Russia. (Proof: Parliamentary government is not functioning in Russia as we speak, despite 25 years of development since the Fall of the Iron Curtain.) If Alexey didn't want to face the hard choices and grimy realities, I think he would have had to return to Byzantine theocracy, i.e. be some sort of powerless monastic puppet in a golden cage, like the last Chinese emperor.
« Last Edit: September 08, 2014, 01:22:00 PM by Превед »
Берёзы севера мне милы,—
Их грустный, опущённый вид,
Как речь безмолвная могилы,
Горячку сердца холодит.

(Афанасий Фет: «Ивы и берёзы», 1843 / 1856)

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Re: I Want to Write a novel
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2014, 03:43:25 PM »
thanks for  good  wishes   ill   let you read the first page
ok  it starts after  the Tsars death :
"My Children  ! Sons and Daughter  of our Holy Mother Russia.
since the Sarrowful   Death of  our predessor   our  Beloved  Monarch  and Sovereign Lord  . Emperor  Nicholas II    and the Execution and the dissolution of their IlLegal   Government   We   His Rightful  Heir   and Sucessor  and only son   Have  Emperor Alexei  II  of  Russia!

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Re: I Want to Write a novel
« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2014, 10:02:48 PM »
That's the first page there are about 20 more

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Re: I Want to Write a novel
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2014, 10:52:32 AM »
Reading your posts, I'm going to guess that English is not your first language (ah, the age of the Internet, it reaches all around the world). 

If that is the case, you should get a Beta reader to help you on this project. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_reader
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« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2014, 10:54:07 AM »
Even if English doesn't seem to be your native tongue, the beginning of your novel sounds good, I'd like to read more of it.
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Re: I Want to Write a novel
« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2014, 11:54:08 AM »
English is my first .

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« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2014, 12:00:14 PM »
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English is my first .

Ah, okay then.  Sorry about that.
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« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2014, 12:44:13 PM »
English is my first .

Romanov_Fan19, I don't have too much of a problem understanding you, and please don't take this as an insult...but what's with the spacing between your words and punctuation marks? Are you typing through some strange format? Otherwise I'd recommend tightening things up, especially as an aspiring novelist!
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