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Hi! I've been researching the family of Maj.-Gen. Serge Plaoutine for some time (see thread in Russian Noble Families board), but now I am hoping that someone could help me with his position.

I know that he was born in 1837, the son of Gen. Nikolai Fedorovich Plaoutine (also A.D.C., I believe). By the time Serge married in 1867 he was listed as a Colonel in the Russian Army and A.D.C. to the Tsar. What did that mean? Was that a full-time position or an honorary one. Imperial Russia was so full of honors and titles, but I cannot find in any book even a reference to any A.D.C. Would he have attended court functions?

Family memories say that Serge Plaoutine was one of the richest land owners in the country at the time of the Revolution, though he died poor in France in 1926. They say that he lived at 25 Millionnaya Street until retirement in 1894. When he retired he had a house at 24 Quai de la Cour. From what I can tell, that was also a very prestigious street (and only a few doors down from Cartier's first shop in Russia!). He rented a flat in Nice beginning about 1907 or so, and retired there in 1914.

Was he an A.D.C. until 1894? Apparently, too, his wife (Eleanor) and two daughters, Vera (married Serge Denissieff) and Elisaveta "Lily" (married Prince Sergei Scherbatoff) were some sort of Ladies of the Court?

Any help is so appreciated!
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Re: Maj.-Gen. Serge Plaoutine, A.D.C.? What was the job of the A.D.C.?
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2015, 05:04:05 PM »
There is a lot of information about aides de camp and their duties on the Imperial Russian Army Ranks string.  You'll find it under Russian Imperial Medals, Orders, Uniforms & Militaria. 

I hope that helps!

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Re: Maj.-Gen. Serge Plaoutine, A.D.C.? What was the job of the A.D.C.?
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2015, 07:18:59 AM »
There is a lot of information about aides de camp and their duties on the Imperial Russian Army Ranks string.  You'll find it under Russian Imperial Medals, Orders, Uniforms & Militaria. 

I hope that helps!

Fabulous! Thanks! I had been going through a bunch of the boards looking, but I hadn't found that one. That did answer quite a few of my questions and the actual job entailed with the title, etc. If anyone can help with any info pertaining to Plaoutine, I'll still be most grateful! ;)

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Re: Maj.-Gen. Serge Plaoutine, A.D.C.? What was the job of the A.D.C.?
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2015, 09:00:06 AM »
Hello

An ADC in the ordinary sense is usually a Captain (in the army), and is attached to a specific senior officer. He accompanies him on his official visits and generally 'smoothes his path'. In the British Army, he comes from the same regiment as the General concerned, and is either hand-picked by him or is recommended to him by someone who knows them both.

A friend of mine, then in the TA, found himself spending an afternoon acting as ADC to the Colonel of his regiment, the by then very aged Field Marshal Sir John Harding, at a presentation of new colours. The highlight of all this was being told, 'Here, hang on to this bloody thing!' The bloody thing was the Field Marshal's baton!

Being an ADC to a monarch is rather more complicated, as monarchs usually have both 'ordinary' ADCs (termed equerries in Britain), and senior officers appointed as more honorary ADCs (usually termed General ADCs). The General ADCs will not be running around making sure that the Great Man's staff car will be ready to pick him up, but will greet the monarch when he arrives for a visit, accompany him round, etc.

Hope that helps

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Re: Maj.-Gen. Serge Plaoutine, A.D.C.? What was the job of the A.D.C.?
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2015, 04:45:14 PM »
NB the Russian terms for aides-de-camp are derived from German:
Aide-de-camp: Адъютант / adyutant < Adjutant
Флигель-адъютант / fligel-adyutant < Flügeladjutant (litterally Wing Aide-de-camp)
Генерал-адъютант / general-adyutant < Generaladjutant

If Plaoutine was a Major-General he must have been a Fliegel-Adyutant, as General-Adyutant was limited to officers of the three highest ranks in the Table of Ranks.
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Re: Maj.-Gen. Serge Plaoutine, A.D.C.? What was the job of the A.D.C.?
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2015, 04:50:19 PM »
NB the Russian terms for aides-de-camp are derived from German:
Aide-de-camp: Адъютант / adyutant < Adjutant
Флигель-адъютант / fligel-adyutant < Flügeladjutant (litterally Wing Aide-de-camp)
Генерал-адъютант / general-adyutant < Generaladjutant

If Plaoutine was a Major-General he must have been a Fliegel-Adyutant, as General-Adyutant was limited to officers of the three highest ranks in the Table of Ranks.

Thanks to all responding on this!
You are right about Plaoutine's rank, since he was listed as A.D.C. already at the rank of Colonel.