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Offline Inok Nikolai

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Re: Madeleine Zanotti
« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2012, 09:51:46 PM »
They're not to be published as far as I know - they're written in quite an open voice (as far as her jewels are not concerned - those are "Medikamente" medicines). Alexandra longed to have Madelaine with her and tried hard to get the commander's permission - without any success. They exchanged things however. Food, eggs, coffee and such. Alexandra often writes about money. It seems that she was as wise as to take a specific sum of cash with her before leaving Zarskoje Selo - the Tsar had no access to his bank accounts anymore and so Alexandra's cash was the only money they had to live with. She even had to pay their servants with that specific sum. Madelaine refused to take her salary but the Empress insisted on it - it is extremely touching to read how much Alexandra cared for her people. Others always first - despite of her own dangerous situation. I can always shake my head if people use to say she was egoistic, had no sense of duty and such....
It is simply not true and people would learn it if they's just read through the papers available in the archives.......

I would like to take this opportunity to thank Thomas Hesse most warmly for this post and the one above!!

I have only begun posting recently, but I have been reading the Forum off and on for some years.
Thomas' posts alerted us to the fact that the Empress' letters to Zanotti were in the Hessian State Archives in Darmstadt.
Since then, we have contacted the Archives and received copies of those letters and permission to publish them.

There are twelve letters written by the Empress to Zanotti while in Tobolsk.
One postcard is in Russian; the other eleven are in German.
They are accompanied by transcriptions done by Zanotti herself in Sütterlinschrift, since she felt that others might not be able to decipher the Empress' handwriting.
(Actually, the originals are easier to read than the transcripts, especially since Sütterlinschrift is no longer in use.)
The original of one letter is missing, and only Zanotti's transcript exists, so she did perform a great service in copying them.

A notation, in Zanotti's hand, on the packet containing the letters, indicates that at one time she loaned them to the Empress' sister Irene.
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Re: Madeleine Zanotti
« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2012, 03:26:21 PM »
You are very welcome!

I am happy to hear that these documents will be published and of good use for further researches in the future! I found them quite accidentally when doing some researches on another theme.

Let me know when/where they are about to be published!
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Re: Madeleine Zanotti
« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2013, 08:50:33 PM »
I have found something on this woman you might want to know according to Ron Moe in his book "Prelude to the Revolution the murder of Rasputin" she wrote  the book "My Empress: 23 years of Intamite life with the Empress of All the Russias From Her Marrige to her day of Exile" as Marfa Mouchanow it is on archive.org

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Re: Madeleine Zanotti
« Reply #18 on: April 16, 2013, 01:59:37 AM »
The improbability of Zanotti, being the author of "My Empress" (by Marfa Mouchanow) has been discussed on the thread: My Empress by Marfa Mouchanow - who actually wrote it and why? see:
http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php?topic=15262.225

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Re: Madeleine Zanotti
« Reply #19 on: July 03, 2014, 11:07:49 AM »
Zanotti Magdalina Frantsevna (Madlen). Alexander palace, 1913.
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Re: Madeleine Zanotti
« Reply #20 on: July 03, 2014, 05:14:50 PM »
Zanotti Magdalina Frantsevna (Madlen). Alexander palace, 1913.


Minor detail:

Not to quibble, but M. F. Zanotti’s great-niece, mentioned above in an earlier posting, gave us a copy of this photo from the family archive where it is labeled “Livadia”.

Perhaps some of our Forum photo detectives can find the room, or wallpaper in other photos in order to determine where it actually was taken.

I. N.
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Re: Madeleine Zanotti
« Reply #21 on: July 07, 2014, 11:03:19 AM »
Zanotti Magdalina Frantsevna (Madlen). Alexander palace, 1913.


Minor detail:

Not to quibble, but M. F. Zanotti’s great-niece, mentioned above in an earlier posting, gave us a copy of this photo from the family archive where it is labeled “Livadia”.

Perhaps some of our Forum photo detectives can find the room, or wallpaper in other photos in order to determine where it actually was taken.

I. N.

Zanotti here appears  a lot younger than I'd imagined her. I got the impression from some of Alexandra's references and correspondence that she was older than Alexandra. Do you (or anyone) know how old she was?
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Re: Madeleine Zanotti
« Reply #22 on: July 07, 2014, 11:26:22 AM »

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Zanotti here appears  a lot younger than I'd imagined her. I got the impression from some of Alexandra's references and correspondence that she was older than Alexandra. Do you (or anyone) know how old she was?
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See Reply No. 8 above for all the biographical details.
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Re: Madeleine Zanotti
« Reply #23 on: July 07, 2014, 11:32:15 AM »
Ah yes, it  would have helped to go back to the basics, so to speak.
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Re: Madeleine Zanotti
« Reply #24 on: July 07, 2014, 05:05:59 PM »
Zanotti Magdalina Frantsevna (Madlen). Alexander palace, 1913.


Based on the style of the blouse she's wearing it looks like this picture was taken earlier than 1913. Maybe 1903 or something like that.
« Last Edit: July 07, 2014, 05:08:33 PM by Udutar »

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Re: Madeleine Zanotti
« Reply #25 on: July 18, 2016, 10:04:10 AM »
Madelaine Zanotti's photo identity card in the Winter Palace:

https://winterpalaceresearch.blogspot.ca/2016/07/ladys-maid-kamer-jungfer.html

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Re: Madeleine Zanotti
« Reply #26 on: July 20, 2016, 09:30:07 AM »
Madelaine Zanotti's photo identity card in the Winter Palace:

https://winterpalaceresearch.blogspot.ca/2016/07/ladys-maid-kamer-jungfer.html

Joanna

Is it possible to see the actual photo card?
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