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Re: The Romanov bloodline decending from 4th century AD
« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2017, 10:20:49 AM »
When one reads comments below it displays a dislike of those who say Royal Bloodline Descent  on Facebook posting of certain royals inheriting rare genetic visible DNA markers is not true.

(Quote) This von Ebert whoever it is, is another fantasist, who believes in fairy tales.   Don't waste your time who believes in fairy tales, it goes on to say all it can do is send you to a Facebook page which is reliable how? it isn't,   So judge it accordingly.   It wants to believe what it wants to believe. Reality is meaningless to it.

From those comments the writer criticizing RBD is suggesting it is just fantasy photos showing rare inherited royal markers on Nicholas 11 and other royals who have inherited the same

 If that is the case why was Royal Bloodline Descent able to download a few photos from Alexanders Palace and show the connection with our other posted photos, were they fakes as well?.




This vonEbert whoever it is, is another fantasist, who believes in fairy tales, like the "Anastasia" survivor theorists. Don't waste your time engaging this entity. It only believes what it wishes to believe and will grasp onto any detail that suits, rather than analyze the facts. I gave up on this lunatic ages ago and suggest you do the same. Let us face it, all it can do is send you to a "Facebook" page, which is reliable how? It isn't. So judge accordingly.

It wants to believe only what it wants to believe. Reality is meaningless to it.

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Re: The Romanov bloodline decending from 4th century AD
« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2017, 11:45:47 AM »
Dude, it's Nicholas II, not Nicholas 11.
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« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2017, 12:05:57 PM »
Might you be an expert in DNA inherited visible markers from birth or only an expert in criticizing.

You use the term dude when your addressing a person in your comments which do not relate to subject matter. 

Thank you for your input


Dude, it's Nicholas II, not Nicholas 11.
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Re: The Romanov bloodline decending from 4th century AD
« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2017, 05:26:51 PM »
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Might you be an expert in DNA inherited visible markers from birth or only an expert in criticizing.

Where did I say anything about DNA? 

I corrected an error that you were constantly making.  Nicholas 11 means Nicholas the Eleventh.  No such Tsar existed.  The correct way of typing the name is Nicholas II. 


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You use the term dude when your addressing a person in your comments which do not relate to subject matter.


What in the dead gods of Krypton does that have to do with anything?   You were making an error, I pointed it out.  End of story.


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You're welcome.
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Re: The Romanov bloodline decending from 4th century AD
« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2017, 06:30:30 PM »
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Might you be an expert in DNA inherited visible markers from birth or only an expert in criticizing.
I corrected an error that you were constantly making.  Nicholas 11 means Nicholas the Eleventh.  No such Tsar existed.
 
Going by his own esoteric logic that sees secret Merovingian patterns in everything there is perhaps (anything is likely, just ask him!) a hidden meaning to his usage? In Russian Nicholas 11. / XI = Николай одиннадцатый = Nikolay odinnadtsatniy, which can be broken down (quite contrary to grammar and etymology ŕ la von Ebert) to odin + nad + tsatoy = Odinn / Wothan above the crescent! So Nicholas 11 is Odinn who will defeat Islam in his Caucasian homeland! Hail Odinn, Rurik and Sćhrímnir, the boar (Eber > Eberhart > (von) Ebert) feasted upon in Valhall!

BTW Your high- and well-earlobed dudeness: Nicholas 2. is also quite acceptable.
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Re: The Romanov bloodline decending from 4th century AD
« Reply #20 on: February 22, 2017, 09:08:29 AM »
Tim

I have read your comments and suggestions on the subject matter of Nicholas ll and also note this particular subject name on Alexanders Palace web page clearly shows the wording Nicholas ll so who should one follow your suggestion or this web page

On the subject matter of rare visible earlobe markers of some royals within past, and a few present the facts laid out and can be seen on Royal Bloodline Descent on Facebook as well a few of the same can be found on Alexanders Palace site.

As you are probably aware we have received criticism of posting such information and advising that RBD has actual photo proof at our Facebook page , so no matter who criticises on line the facts are there to see, I cannot withdraw my comments because some may think negatively of what I have presented.

As to a photo on line of Clovis and his distant relative Chilperic ll showing the same gene marker the photos taken are from Coinage or in the case of Clovis from a statue when he was been ordained. Such spoken of can be found on line from where I located them from.

I have been advised by two well known geneticist one in the US and the other in England to inherit the same markers one needs to share the same ancestor kinship royal born or not . (Complex family line inheritance)

Frederic von Ebert

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Re: The Romanov bloodline decending from 4th century AD
« Reply #21 on: February 22, 2017, 10:23:36 AM »
I find it a little unlikely that distinctive earlobes are visible on Merovingian coins, since they are tiny.

A quick look at the Elizabeth II head on a 10p coin in my pocket (quite a bit larger than a Merovingian tremissa) reveals that she is wearing earrings, but her ear lobes are quite simply too small for anything to be discerned about them. My Queen's Diamond Jubilee Medal is several times the size, so I will have a look at it when I am at home this evening.

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« Reply #22 on: February 22, 2017, 04:23:31 PM »
Ann

You bring up a good point of observation Elizabeth ll has no inherited visible DNA markers on her earlobes but her father George VI and his brother Edward did.  The gene that is still descending and reappears on a few of her grandchildren an a couple of her great grandchildren.

The gene that forms the marker on some and not the others within their family kinship line like myself and a couple of my German ancestors von Ebert's maternal side inherited the visible markers over a hundred years ore more and did not reappear until my birth, and I passed them on to my daughter and she to her child.

My sister and her children did not inherit the same. The issue is why some inherit the visible markers and others within a family line do not.  I have no answer to that question but like Elizabeth 11, she most likely is the carrier otherwise a few of her grandchildren would not have inherited the visible DNA markers. 

I have as mentioned previously been informed by a couple of well respected geneticist that the gene appears descend down both sexes. In regards to her majesties grand children inheriting the marker, they do not appear on her husband or his ancestors only of her father and uncle and later to reappear on a few of her Grand children and Great Grandchildren..

How I discovered the ancestor path of the markers was because some ten or more years ago i received a phone call by a relative that I was on history channel and was advised the German Prince looked identical to me and he married Queen Victoria;s eldest daughter Vicky (Victoria) their first born was Queen Victoria;s grandson Wilhelm ll who showed identical inherited markers of myself .

From that point on the markers have been found on certain born royals and not the others.  However the markers are descending and I have located them in photos such as the ordination statue of Clovis and one of his decedents Chilperic photo of inherited markers are from a carving of a medallion depicting Chilperic ll.  His picture is seen on Wikipedia the free encyclopedia.

I cannot change the ancestral genetic markers and who shared them but their are many sceptical of my findings possibly because any change in unknown history and for some may not undrestand or want to understand.  My website as mentioned is Royal Bloodline Descent  on Facebook and there lies the facts if one would care to find the truth.

Thank you for your comments


Frederic



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I find it a little unlikely that distinctive earlobes are visible on Merovingian coins, since they are tiny.

A quick look at the Elizabeth II head on a 10p coin in my pocket (quite a bit larger than a Merovingian tremissa) reveals that she is wearing earrings, but her ear lobes are quite simply too small for anything to be discerned about them. My Queen's Diamond Jubilee Medal is several times the size, so I will have a look at it when I am at home this evening.

Ann
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Re: The Romanov bloodline decending from 4th century AD
« Reply #23 on: February 22, 2017, 05:30:24 PM »
Are you related, in any way, to the late movie critic, Roger Ebert?
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Re: The Romanov bloodline decending from 4th century AD
« Reply #24 on: February 22, 2017, 08:58:09 PM »
Tim

I have read your comments and suggestions on the subject matter of Nicholas ll and also note this particular subject name on Alexanders Palace web page clearly shows the wording Nicholas ll so who should one follow your suggestion or this web page

On the subject matter of rare visible earlobe markers of some royals within past, and a few present the facts laid out and can be seen on Royal Bloodline Descent on Facebook as well a few of the same can be found on Alexanders Palace site.

As you are probably aware we have received criticism of posting such information and advising that RBD has actual photo proof at our Facebook page , so no matter who criticises on line the facts are there to see, I cannot withdraw my comments because some may think negatively of what I have presented.

As to a photo on line of Clovis and his distant relative Chilperic ll showing the same gene marker the photos taken are from Coinage or in the case of Clovis from a statue when he was been ordained. Such spoken of can be found on line from where I located them from.

I have been advised by two well known geneticist one in the US and the other in England to inherit the same markers one needs to share the same ancestor kinship royal born or not . (Complex family line inheritance)

Frederic von Ebert

royal.bloodline.descent@gmail.com

I have tried to follow this thread but am having difficulty trying to decipher your words.  I have several questions for you...

What is your first language and/or are you using Google Translate?

Who are the two geneticists you are referring to and what are their names? 

Who is Sarah Martin and what is your relationship to her?

Kind regards,  JGP

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Re: The Romanov bloodline decending from 4th century AD
« Reply #25 on: February 23, 2017, 07:51:43 AM »
Herr von Ebert

My apologies for taking so long to respond further to your last message, but some detailed research has been necessary.

My Queen's Diamond Jubilee Medal does indeed bear a large representation of the head of Queen Elizabeth II (long may she continue to reign), but this is somewhat stylised, and all that can really be seen is an earring and some hair. I then turned to my grandfather's World War 1 medals, which, conveniently, show George V's ears quite clearly. I will dig out my father's General Service Medal to see whether it carries an earlier representation of the Queen.

However, these portrait heads are much larger than those on Merovingian coins, and based on contemporaneous photographs. As I mentioned yesterday, Merovingian coins are tiny, and it is quite  possible that those who cut the dies for them never actually saw the relevant king at sufficiently close range to see the detail of his ear lobes.

I note from wikipedia that the medallion of Chilperic II you rely on is specifically described as 'modern'.

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« Reply #26 on: February 23, 2017, 08:59:42 AM »
Tim

I have read your comments and suggestions on the subject matter of Nicholas ll and also note this particular subject name on Alexanders Palace web page clearly shows the wording Nicholas ll so who should one follow your suggestion or this web page

On the subject matter of rare visible earlobe markers of some royals within past, and a few present the facts laid out and can be seen on Royal Bloodline Descent on Facebook as well a few of the same can be found on Alexanders Palace site.

As you are probably aware we have received criticism of posting such information and advising that RBD has actual photo proof at our Facebook page , so no matter who criticises on line the facts are there to see, I cannot withdraw my comments because some may think negatively of what I have presented.

As to a photo on line of Clovis and his distant relative Chilperic ll showing the same gene marker the photos taken are from Coinage or in the case of Clovis from a statue when he was been ordained. Such spoken of can be found on line from where I located them from.

I have been advised by two well known geneticist one in the US and the other in England to inherit the same markers one needs to share the same ancestor kinship royal born or not . (Complex family line inheritance)

Frederic von Ebert

royal.bloodline.descent@gmail.com

1.My first spoken language is English

2.The two geneticist names will not be disclosed as all communication between myself and those I speak of are not for public information.

3. Sarah Martin is a young woman living in the United states and is a university student studying journalism.

Frederic



I have tried to follow this thread but am having difficulty trying to decipher your words.  I have several questions for you...

What is your first language and/or are you using Google Translate?

Who are the two geneticists you are referring to and what are their names? 

Who is Sarah Martin and what is your relationship to her?

Kind regards,  JGP
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Re: The Romanov bloodline decending from 4th century AD
« Reply #27 on: February 23, 2017, 11:32:46 AM »
Ann

I am Canadian born with a German mother (Ebert) also on some documentation the von before the surname. My fathers side is of Norman English ancestry. Are you American or possibly from England?.

If you would care to receive the picture of Clovis been ordained and Chilperic  ll I can send both photos to an email address other than this location , if you would care to share with others I leave that up to you.

As to what one can see of  what royals of the Romanov side ancestry their cousins on the German side and their English cousins who shared the same DNA marker most can be seen at Royal Bloodline Descent   on Facebook if one would care to see the facts.

In this modern day of royal photos who have inherited the royal markers it appears there is some airbrushing by certain organizations that takes place. What I mean from that is, one may see the true photo of a Royal showing the inherited earlobe markers and the next photo in a different magazine or paper may eliminate such markers by airbrushing them out.

A few years ago I sent proof of what I had spoken about to an editor of a respected royal  magazine, that editor wrote and said Yes I see what you have spoken about, do you mind sending them to my royal expert which I did. The suggested royal expert wrote back and said I;m sorry I don't see any earlobe markers possibly because my eyes are not what they were before.

I contacted the editor and provided the comments of their so called royal expert , the editor said I would agree with my expert I don't see any mentioned earlobe markers, This editor backed out of what he saw and commented on and went with his so called expert.


Finally  I took time to provide the same information to a known English writer of royal books etc, she  looked at the photos on Royal Bloodline Descent and said in her communication, Yes I do see the royal markers and also the same on you, but what good would that do as it would only change some parts of known history.  This writer knew I was born a commoner like most of us but included she saw the same ancestor DNA marker certain royals did exist.

 The photos on RBD Facebook page are real if one chooses to see them, but if not they may never know, that is their choice.

With respect


Frederic von Ebert




Herr von Ebert

My apologies for taking so long to respond further to your last message, but some detailed research has been necessary.

My Queen's Diamond Jubilee Medal does indeed bear a large representation of the head of Queen Elizabeth II (long may she continue to reign), but this is somewhat stylised, and all that can really be seen is an earring and some hair. I then turned to my grandfather's World War 1 medals, which, conveniently, show George V's ears quite clearly. I will dig out my father's General Service Medal to see whether it carries an earlier representation of the Queen

However, these portrait heads are much larger than those on Merovingian coins, and based on contemporaneous photographs. As I mentioned yesterday, Merovingian coins are tiny, and it is quite  possible that those who cut the dies for them never actually saw the relevant king at sufficiently close range to see the detail of his ear lobes.

I note from wikipedia that the medallion of Chilperic II you rely on is specifically described as 'modern'.

Ann
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« Reply #28 on: February 23, 2017, 11:35:02 AM »
My apologies. The 'von' confused me.

I am English.

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« Reply #29 on: February 23, 2017, 12:10:56 PM »
His nearly un intelligible English confuses me. Most Canadians don't write like English is a third language for them.  The evasion of answering direct questions, lack of genuine evidence and sheer lack of grasping how DNA works and what it can can't show also confuse me.

But, then this one is just another pathetic excuse of someone who's life is so empty they have to create some fiction of making themselves connected to "royalty" and retreat to theatrical bleats of indignation when confronted that no rational person actually gives a crap about all of this earlobe nonsense and the unsupported "evidence" which shows nothing at all.

I'd suggest giving this royal wannabee a clear berth, attempts at rational discussion went nowhere some time ago. You are wasting your time giving this any oxygen at all.