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Re: Did Grand Duchess Anastasia truly trust Grigori Rasputin?
« Reply #60 on: June 27, 2008, 04:40:33 AM »
Sorry to have to ask but what does "tatted" mean in the Empresses diary?

Sorry for go topic off, but in that 1894 diary, Sarushka, Alexandra described her wedding day----something she wore white wedding-dress, what was strange for her(she wore black dresses), because she was depressive, cause many deaths in her family. Am I right?

Of course, come back to topic.  :)

I don't think she wrote about that in her diary; I think she wrote about it in a letter to one of her sisters, saying, "One's feelings one can imagine ... One day in deepest mourning lamenting a beloved one, the next in smartest clothes being married. There cannot be a greater contrast, but it drew us more together, if possible ... Such was my entry into Russia ... Our marriage seemed to me a mere continuation of the masses for the dead with this difference, that now I wore a white dress instead of a black..."

Alix felt strange because only a week before her wedding there was Alexander III's funeral, in which you of course wear black for mourning. Because the wedding was put on a date so quick after the funeral, the IF were still in mourning and being the bride she had to wear white.

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According to Nicholas's diary, both Maria and Anastasia burned diaries when Commissar Yakovlev arrived in Tobolsk. This was even before Yakovlev announced the tsar's impending transfer to Ekaterinburg. However, Nicholas doesn't specify how many of their diaries the Little Pair burned. Three of Maria's dairies have survived and are held at GARF, but none of Anastasia's dairies are known to exist. They're all presumed lost or destroyed.

Thanks for clearing that up, Sarushka!! =]

I didn't know about Alexandra's diaries. Beacause I often read that the last thing she wrote in it it was the time of going to bed before the murder.

Proud_Olga, here's her last diary entry, in case you haven't read it full! :

Grey morning, later lovely sunshine. Baby has a slight cold. All went out 1/2 hour in the morning, Olga & I arranged out medicines. Tatiana read Spiritual reading. They went out, Tatiana stayed with me & we read Book of prophet Amos and prophet Audios. Tatted. Every morning the Komendant comes to our rooms, at last after a week brought eggs again for Baby.
8 Supper.
Suddenly Lenka Sednev was fetched to go & see his Uncle & flew off - wonder whether it's true & we shall see the boy back again!
Played bezique with N.
10 1/2 to bed. 15 degrees.

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Re: Did Grand Duchess Anastasia truly trust Grigori Rasputin?
« Reply #61 on: June 27, 2008, 05:32:11 AM »
Sorry to have to ask but what does "tatted" mean in the Empresses diary?

I think she may have meant something like embroidering or sewing...

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Re: Did Grand Duchess Anastasia truly trust Grigori Rasputin?
« Reply #62 on: June 27, 2008, 05:40:03 AM »
Thank you, Ferah and Holly, You are so kind!   :-*
I think she may have meant something like embroidering or sewing...
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« Reply #63 on: June 27, 2008, 05:49:31 AM »
Thank you, Ferah and Holly, You are so kind!   :-*

Anytime and thank you too, nena! Remember if you would like to read more specific diary entries, do not hesitate to ask me! =]

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Re: Did Grand Duchess Anastasia truly trust Grigori Rasputin?
« Reply #64 on: June 27, 2008, 07:48:31 AM »
Sorry to have to ask but what does "tatted" mean in the Empresses diary?

I think she may have meant something like embroidering or sewing...

Tatting is a form of lace-making. It's basically tying threads into complex knots and loops. More info:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatting
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Re: Did Grand Duchess Anastasia truly trust Grigori Rasputin?
« Reply #65 on: June 27, 2008, 08:09:11 PM »
Yes, that is what tatting means! Thank you, Sarushka!

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« Reply #66 on: June 28, 2008, 05:28:55 AM »
Many thanks for the information, now I know. I wonder what she was making

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Re: Did Grand Duchess Anastasia truly trust Grigori Rasputin?
« Reply #67 on: November 24, 2008, 10:27:45 PM »
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Anastasia once wrote in a letter to her father Nicholas II in 1914 "Today I caught father Grigori watching me through my bedroom door that was partially opened, before I was decent, I don't wish to tell mother as it will surley upset her

WOW. Never ever heard that. It shocked me.
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Re: Did Grand Duchess Anastasia truly trust Grigori Rasputin?
« Reply #68 on: November 24, 2008, 10:30:39 PM »
Sorry for go topic off, but in that 1894 diary, Sarushka, Alexandra described her wedding day----something she wore white wedding-dress, what was strange for her(she wore black dresses), because she was depressive, cause many deaths in her family. Am I right?

Of course, come back to topic.  :)

Well she very well couldn't have worn black to her wedding. So many looked down upon the wedding since it was in such close time to Tsa Alexander III's death. And she didn't wear black because she was depressive. It was because mourning black was customary.
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Re: Did Grand Duchess Anastasia truly trust Grigori Rasputin?
« Reply #69 on: November 25, 2008, 07:16:03 AM »
Sorry for go topic off, but in that 1894 diary, Sarushka, Alexandra described her wedding day----something she wore white wedding-dress, what was strange for her(she wore black dresses), because she was depressive, cause many deaths in her family. Am I right?

Of course, come back to topic.  :)

Well she very well couldn't have worn black to her wedding. So many looked down upon the wedding since it was in such close time to Tsa Alexander III's death. And she didn't wear black because she was depressive. It was because mourning black was customary.

Yes, the royal court of the women was post to wear black for a year. I also belive the people took this as one of many "bad omens."

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Re: Did Grand Duchess Anastasia truly trust Grigori Rasputin?
« Reply #70 on: November 25, 2008, 08:20:53 AM »
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Anastasia once wrote in a letter to her father Nicholas II in 1914 "Today I caught father Grigori watching me through my bedroom door that was partially opened, before I was decent, I don't wish to tell mother as it will surley upset her

WOW. Never ever heard that. It shocked me.

That was discussed at the beginning of the thread. It's not an authentic quote -- it's from the Anastasia installment in the Royal Diaries series of children's novels.
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Re: Did Grand Duchess Anastasia truly trust Grigori Rasputin?
« Reply #71 on: November 26, 2008, 05:52:09 PM »
Would you know what page? I've read that book a number of times and can't ever remember reading it..

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« Reply #72 on: November 26, 2008, 09:01:32 PM »
Would you know what page? I've read that book a number of times and can't ever remember reading it..

Sorry, I don't own that particular book. I'd have to get it from the library.
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Re: Did Grand Duchess Anastasia truly trust Grigori Rasputin?
« Reply #73 on: November 26, 2008, 10:27:45 PM »
Sorry for go topic off, but in that 1894 diary, Sarushka, Alexandra described her wedding day----something she wore white wedding-dress, what was strange for her(she wore black dresses), because she was depressive, cause many deaths in her family. Am I right?

Of course, come back to topic.  :)

Well she very well couldn't have worn black to her wedding. So many looked down upon the wedding since it was in such close time to Tsa Alexander III's death. And she didn't wear black because she was depressive. It was because mourning black was customary.

Yes, the royal court of the women was post to wear black for a year. I also belive the people took this as one of many "bad omens."

Indeed! Same with Nicky going to the ball held by the French. They all thought because of what happened in the filed...that he shouldnt go and he didn anyways. =[
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Re: Did Grand Duchess Anastasia truly trust Grigori Rasputin?
« Reply #74 on: November 27, 2008, 07:21:47 PM »
Sorry for go topic off, but in that 1894 diary, Sarushka, Alexandra described her wedding day----something she wore white wedding-dress, what was strange for her(she wore black dresses), because she was depressive, cause many deaths in her family. Am I right?

Of course, come back to topic.  :)

Well she very well couldn't have worn black to her wedding. So many looked down upon the wedding since it was in such close time to Tsa Alexander III's death. And she didn't wear black because she was depressive. It was because mourning black was customary.

Yes, the royal court of the women was post to wear black for a year. I also belive the people took this as one of many "bad omens."

Indeed! Same with Nicky going to the ball held by the French. They all thought because of what happened in the filed...that he shouldnt go and he didn anyways. =[


Nicholas and Alexander did not whish to go the ball, but there adviors inisit on going. One of the reason is it would had looked bad for the russian court. They did not want to lose the French as an ally, the peasnts thought they were dancing for the deaths of the fallen. In reality it was the opposite, they had no choice.