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Offline Prince_Christopher

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Re: 1967 revolution & chances of reinstatement
« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2005, 04:33:24 PM »
Royalty is a dying institution....
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Re: 1967 revolution & chances of reinstatement
« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2005, 09:41:47 PM »
The question seems to be whether the people regard the royal family as theirs, or the reverse.  Certainly the idea of people as "subjects" is gone or going, but on the other hand there exist royals who have been trained to be administrators from childhood and who, in many cases, do a good job, rather like a CEO who has 15 or 20 years of training behind him before he (or she) takes the job.  In the case of the Greek royals,  historically they were sometimes invited in to take the job...

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Re: 1967 revolution & chances of reinstatement
« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2005, 06:55:26 AM »
I doubt it very much. It's surprising it was re-instated in Spain, but I think it doesn't happen that much anyway, and I agree, it's a dying institution...

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Re: 1967 revolution & chances of reinstatement
« Reply #18 on: August 25, 2005, 01:36:44 AM »
Cimbrio,Prince_Christopher,I beg to differ.Monarchy is not a dying institution,certainly not if it adopts to the times.This modern day and age requires a different approach,and they being aware of that,present day Monarchies are "doing well" I would say.It very much provides continuity as well as a symbole of unity,which in this day and age gaines importance by the day,devided and "messy" as it often appears to be and is.The Constitutional Monarchy has proven to be strong in most if not all European Monarchies.As to the Greek,the referendum in the 70ties was unlawfull and corrupted by the then regime,the military dictators.

There are no absolute Monarchies anymore,nor do the present refer to their people as "their subjects",these days are long gone,and as Maki stated,most are/were trained to be a "CEO",but then with a very human touch.All are very much aware of what is going on today both in their own as in other countries,modern communication takes care of that as opposed to "old times"when their was an entourage that kept all they regarded "nasty,or unfavorable to themselves and twisted facts"away from the Monarch.With all misunderstandings,wars and revolutions as one of the  results.

At present it is very unlikely that Monarchie will be restored in Greece,even tho Tino never renounced his Throne,recently lives in Greece again,and he and his Family attracks crowds to the streets.If Tino and his Family are ever to be called upon remains to be seen,I would use the Greek equivelent of the Spanish manana,avrio in this case...we"ll see.Regards,Lucien.
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Re: 1967 revolution & chances of reinstatement
« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2005, 05:56:44 PM »
Lucien, thank you for the vote of confidence.  I do so agree with your point of view.  I lived in Greece when there was still a royal family, and I always felt that there was someone on the job who sincerely cared about us.  Maki

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Re: 1967 revolution & chances of reinstatement
« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2005, 05:59:46 PM »
P. S. from Maki:  Tell me more about the fact that Constantine and his family attract crowds.  I knew that he planned to move back to Greece, but didn't realize that they had already made the move.  Would you say they are fairly well treated by the people?  Is it just Constantine and Anne-Marie who have moved back, or or there others in the family?

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Re: 1967 revolution & chances of reinstatement
« Reply #21 on: August 26, 2005, 02:14:06 PM »
Dear Maki,


This is a subject that really interests me.  Does King Constantine and his wife live in any of the palaces, and do they live there permanentl  It seemes to me that during the Olympics the people were very favourable to them.

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Re: 1967 revolution & chances of reinstatement
« Reply #22 on: August 26, 2005, 07:46:33 PM »
I do wish I could find out.  I did a search of the Athens News for the entire past year and there was not a single mention of Constantine II or "King of Greece"  or Constantine DeGrecia.  It's amazing that there wouldn't be a mention in the Athens English-language paper if Constantine were living in the city.  As regards living in one of the palaces, I do doubt it since they have fallen into terrible disrepair (see the thread on Palaces) and C. was somewhat compensated for his property by the country.  I don't know how much real estate this included.

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Re: 1967 revolution & chances of reinstatement
« Reply #23 on: August 27, 2005, 10:27:26 AM »
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P. S. from Maki:  Tell me more about the fact that Constantine and his family attract crowds.  I knew that he planned to move back to Greece, but didn't realize that they had already made the move.  Would you say they are fairly well treated by the people?  Is it just Constantine and Anne-Marie who have moved back, or or there others in the family?


Dear Maki,it is not that there are crowds awaiting them 24/7,they try to keep a "low profile",but still,they receive a warm reception.I know Pavlos and MC have purchased a residence near Athens,but as to the King and Queen I'm not sure their present residence is to be perminent.Non of their former residences(Tatoi,Psychiko or Mon Plaisir on Corfu)have been returned,but the King was compensated as a result of a decision by the European Court.
Prince Nikolaos lives in London/Chelsea,but I don't know if he returns/or remains in residence there.

The Athens Olympics were to mark a  "landslide"as the Greek Royal Family was welcomed by the President,
not only during a reception but privately as well,in their former home,now the Presidential Palace.

Don't expect Greek newspapers to mention that much on them.Lucien.
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Re: 1967 revolution & chances of reinstatement
« Reply #24 on: August 29, 2005, 02:24:29 PM »
Non of their former residences(Tatoi,Psychiko or Mon Plaisir on Corfu)have been returned

Correction:I mentioned Mon Plaisir,but obviously,I mean Mon Repos,sorry.Lucien.
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Re: 1967 revolution & chances of reinstatement
« Reply #25 on: August 29, 2005, 03:39:09 PM »
I knew what you meant.  Thank you again for the information.  Maki

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Re: 1967 revolution & chances of reinstatement
« Reply #26 on: February 27, 2006, 07:32:18 AM »
Dear Friends,
It´s not that in Greece people like or don´t like monarchy. It´s that the Constitution forbites any change of the State, from Presidential Republic to Contitutional Monarchy. That´s our...´´democrachy´´. As for the rest of your questions, the Greek Royal Family stays at the ´´Grand Bretagne´´ Hotel, when they visit Greece. They have alway a worm welcome from almost everyone who meets them at streets or anywere. Even anti-royalists have no problem anymore, because they are not afraid of a restoration. Contantine himself, also, have no doupts about it anymore...

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Re: 1967 revolution & chances of reinstatement
« Reply #27 on: September 03, 2006, 10:02:32 AM »
Have Tino and Anne moved back to Greec yet?

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Re: 1967 revolution & chances of reinstatement
« Reply #28 on: September 03, 2006, 10:22:36 AM »
Have the King and Queen moved back to Greece yet?

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Re: 1967 revolution & chances of reinstatement
« Reply #29 on: April 24, 2007, 01:41:46 AM »
It is very unfortunate to say that it is today some forty years to the day that the tanks motored in to Athens and seized the reigns of power!It is also of course the day that democracy was pillaged and the true organs of state were systematically destroyed.Some 5000 Greeks were arrested and the King left powerless and to order the nation to  defend itself from the evils within!

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