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Alexander III
« on: August 19, 2004, 11:32:52 AM »
In different books I've read about Nicholas II, they often talk about the train wreck Alexander III was in and how he practically held the roof of the carriage up so his family could escape While surfing the web today I found a pic of the wreck


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« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2004, 11:40:06 AM »
Coryne Hall in her book, LITTLE MOTHER OF RUSSIA, gives a good accoubnt of the wreck.  She also wrote an article on this incident in the European Royal History Journal a few years ago.

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Re: Alexander III
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2004, 02:46:55 PM »
I've heard alternate reports that it was an accident and that it was an attempted assassination.  Does anyone know?

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« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2004, 03:05:16 PM »
I remember reading it was a terrorist attack.. but I am writting from memory..
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« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2004, 04:59:21 PM »
According to Coryne Hall, in "Little Mother of Russia, the train wreck was an accident caused by the excessive speed of a train that was too heavy on the rails.

However, rumours persisted that it was terrorists.

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Re: Alexander III
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2004, 07:09:57 PM »
I don't know if this is a memorial to the accident since I don't speak Russian, but it looks like an Imperial memorial of some sort at Borki.
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Re: Alexander III
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2004, 07:13:27 PM »
Oh my gosh, thank you. I don't  know where you find all the pictures and photos that you do, but thanks.

With all the pictures, the Romanvo's and their family are so alive.

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« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2004, 07:16:06 PM »
Thanks for that photo Grandduchessella!

Does anyone here know if the incredible cathedral by the place they had the crash in Borky has survived?

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Re: Alexander III
« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2004, 12:35:49 AM »
Drats, as I said, I don't read Russian, and couldn't get the page translated. I just crossed my fingers and hoped someone could tell me.  :(
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Re: Alexander III
« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2004, 05:24:11 AM »
GrandDuchessElla don't you hate that? No being able to read what's on the page? Whenever I surf I have 2 windows up. One for the page in the foreign language and the other is the language translation page I use

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« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2004, 09:43:36 AM »
Is it true that teh injuries suffered while helping his family escape the wreck caused damage to Alexander's kidneys that later led to the condition that killed him?

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« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2004, 10:05:53 AM »
This was discussed a long while back in Imperial Transportation, but I've pulled it up and here it is ...

"Greg_King date=02/16/04 at 08:31:10]Alexander III did not, in fact, hold aloft the roof of the railway carriage-it's a myth.  See Coryne Hall's "Little Mother of Russia," Julia Kudrina's "Marie Feodorovna," and for Marie Feodorovna's own account, "Marie Feodorovna, Empress of Russia: An Exhibition about the Danish Princess who became Empress of Russia."

As to the cause of his death: there are a number of various reports available now that both confirm and contradict the official version.  I don't know enough to contradict the official verdict of nephritis, but there is also a fair amount of information now that he was suffering from liver failure due to alcohol poisoning and years of drinking.  I recall an interview with one of those who was present when they embalmed him, describing how the doctors were shocked at the damage brought about by his alcohol consumption, and I've recently seen some documents that support this.  His drinking had been a problem for a long time-he used to get drunk frequently, smash things, and bully Nicholas a lot-and when he did and the IF were in residence in St. Petersburg Marie Feodorovna would collect the children (at all hours of the night apparently) and flee in a carriage to the Tauride Palace, where she kept a suite of rooms-officially used when members of the family went ice skating on the pond there-but apparently maintained to provide a refuge.  This happened, according to the curator, quite a bit-they have records and diaries and the like about the various incidents-and Marie Feodorovna certainly took to telling servants in the palaces to hide alcohol and not serve it to her husband-and he circumvented this by having special flasks designed to fit into the tops of his boots.  So given this I wouldn't be terribly surprised if his cause of death really was something related to what I've seen described as "chronic alcoholism," but don't know more than this."

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Re: Alexander III
« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2004, 11:27:26 AM »
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GrandDuchessElla don't you hate that? No being able to read what's on the page? Whenever I surf I have 2 windows up. One for the page in the foreign language and the other is the language translation page I use


I usually get around it by using an online translation page since there's so much good info out there that' s not in English. I've used it for Russian before but this time it just didn't want to translate the caption.
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Re: Alexander III
« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2004, 01:29:57 PM »
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Is it true that teh injuries suffered while helping his family escape the wreck caused damage to Alexander's kidneys that later led to the condition that killed him?


That has certainly been put forth in many books. I don't know, however if its speculation or fact.
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« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2004, 02:54:44 PM »
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That has certainly been put forth in many books. I don't know, however if its speculation or fact.


Thank you that's what I thought as well.