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Mischa:
Hi amadeo,

I think I can identify most of the persons in the picture.
The woman sitting in the centre is Queen Maria of Bavaria. At her right side stands her husband King Maximilian II of Bavaria and next to him his father the abdicated King Ludwig I.

The man at Ludwigs right side is probably his brother Prince Karl. The beautiful young woman next to Karl is Empress Elisabeth of Austria (Sissi). The older woman sitting in front of her is her mother Duchess Ludowika in Bavaria (the half-sister of King Ludwig I). All other persons at the right side of the picture are siblings of Sissi. The man sitting at the front far right is her father Duke Maximilian in Bavaria.

At Queen Marias left side stand her sons. The future King Otto I of Bavaria and his older brother Ludwig II of Bavaria.

The persons in the left part of the picture probably all belong to the families of the three younger sons of Ludwig I.

The woman standing next to Ludwig II is probably the Queen of Greece. (I can' t remember her name) The man next to her is King Otto I of Greece, the second son of Ludwig I.

The very tall and bald-headed man next Otto maybe his youngest brother Adalbert. The man sitting thougfully at the table is Luitpold, the third son of Ludwig I, the future "Prinzregent" (I don't know the english word for this title. But it means he reigned for Otto I of Bavaria who ws mentally ill)

The two boys standing behind Luitpold are his sons. The future Ludwig III (right) and (probably) Leopold. The girl standing far right maybe Luitpolds daughter Therese.

The other women and children at the left side of the picture surely  belong to the families of Luitpold and Adalbert (Otto I of Greese didn't have children) but I can't tell who is who.

Ludwig II seems to about 13 years old in this picture. This would mean it was taken 1858/59. Perhaps this additional information helps you to identify the other persons with the help of a family tree.

Regards from Munich, Germany

Mischa

grandduchessella:

--- Quote ---Hi amadeo,

The beautiful young woman next to Karl is Empress Elisabeth of Austria (Sissi). The older woman sitting in front of her is her mother Duchess Ludowika in Bavaria (the half-sister of King Ludwig I). All other persons at the right side of the picture are siblings of Sissi.

The woman standing next to Ludwig II is probably the Queen of Greece. (I can' t remember her name) The man next to her is King Otto I of Greece, the second son of Ludwig I.

--- End quote ---


I think the girl right next to her is her sister Sophie, Duchess d'Alencon--she had very arresting eyes, larger than her sisters'. Wasn't Otto's wife Queen Amelia or Amalia?

Mischa:
Thinking it over it seems to me that I made two mistakes in identifying the persons on the picture.

First I mixed up the two elder sons of Luitpold. The future Ludwig III is left, his brother Leopold, who married the elder daughter of Sissi is right.

Second I said that all people on the left side of the foto where members of the families of the three younger sons of Ludwig I. But one of the women there has to be his youngest daughter Alexandra. I'm not sure but I think it's the woman in the black dress sitting on Luitpolds left side.

At the right side of the picture next to Sissi is Sophie as Grandducessella mentioned. The next woman is also a sister of Sissi and Sophie but I'am unable to tell wheather it's Marie or Mathilde. The two young man a Sissis brothers Ludwig (the taller one) and Karl Theodor. The boy far right is her  youngest brother Max Emanuel. The woman in the black dress sitting right from Duke Maximilian is his oldest daughter Helene and next to her Mathilde or Marie . (This two looked very alike.)

@ Grandducessella I only remember that the Queen of Greece was a born princess of Oldenburg

Greetings

Mischa

grandduchessella:
I thought the one man might be Karl Theodor but wasn't sure--was he the one who was the father of Elizabeth of Belgium and Crown Princess Rupprecht of Bavaria?

Mischa:
Hi Grandducessella :-)

Karl Theodor was the father of Elisabeth of Belgium and Princess Gabriele who married Crown Prince Ruppert. His father was Ludwig III.

Mischa

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