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Re: Help with Photo ID and/or Caption
« Reply #45 on: April 06, 2007, 03:23:07 PM »
Well, these 2 pictures had been described as "Franz of Bavaria's wedding"  :-\. Looking at the gown of the bride I think the wedding took place in the 1920s. But as I know there was not any Franz of Bavaria got married in the 1920s. Possibly the couple are relatives of the Bavarian Royal family...Any ideas?




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Re: Help with Photo ID and/or Caption
« Reply #46 on: April 07, 2007, 05:45:14 AM »
Hey Sveta,

I've never seen these rare pictures before, but the man looks like Wilhelm von Urach to me. He married Wiltrud Princess of Bavaria (1884-1975), a younger daughter of King Ludwig III. and Archduchess Marie Therese, in November 1924. Wilhelm was firstly married to Amélie Duchess in Bavaria (1865-1912), eldest daughter of Duke Carl Theodor.

Amélie and Wilhelm had nine children. The two youngest, Eberhard and Mechthilde, were born in 1907 and 1912. The children on the wedding picture look much younger, so I don't think that we see Wilhelm's children here. Maybe they are a niece and a nephew of Wiltrud.
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Re: Help with Photo ID and/or Caption
« Reply #47 on: April 07, 2007, 06:00:54 AM »
But the bride doesn't look like Wiltrud, she looks much younger :-\. Though you suggestion make me think that the man could be Wilhelm (1897-1957), eldest son of Wilhelm von Urach and Amélie Duchess in Bavaria, who married in 1928 Elisabeth Therer (? spelling?)...

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Re: Help with Photo ID and/or Caption
« Reply #48 on: April 07, 2007, 07:16:44 AM »
Wilhelm (1897-1957), Amélie's eldest son, married Elisabeth Theurer (1899-1988) in 1928. As this marriage was a morganatic one, he renounced the Ducal title and took the name "Graf von Württemberg".

Anyway, I'm quite sure that we see Wilhelm and Wiltrud on the pictures.

I could ask Inigo Urach, Amélie's grandson, for identification help.
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Re: Help with Photo ID and/or Caption
« Reply #49 on: April 07, 2007, 07:21:41 AM »
I found another photograph of Urach's second wedding ... If you compare this one to the two pictures you've posted, it's obvious that we see the same couple on them: Wilhelm and Princess Wiltrud.


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Re: Help with Photo ID and/or Caption
« Reply #50 on: April 07, 2007, 07:45:55 AM »
Wow, Marie, thank you! :o :) Definitely Wiltrud is hard to recognize in those pictures but now I see you are right. Thanks again!

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Re: Help with Photo ID and/or Caption
« Reply #51 on: April 07, 2007, 10:14:01 AM »
Its a pity that there are so less books about this Royal family.

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Re: Help with Photo ID and/or Caption
« Reply #52 on: April 07, 2007, 03:22:56 PM »
Its a pity that there are so less books about this Royal family.

There are quite a few books about the Bavarian royal family. Unfortunately most of them are only available in German.

Sveta, may I ask you where you've found these two pictures of Wilhelm's second wedding? Ebay?
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Re: Help with Photo ID and/or Caption
« Reply #53 on: April 07, 2007, 03:31:51 PM »
Its a pity that there are so less books about this Royal family.



Sveta, may I ask you where you've found these two pictures of Wilhelm's second wedding? Ebay?

Yes, Ebay  :)

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Re: Help with Photo ID and/or Caption
« Reply #54 on: April 27, 2007, 01:14:08 PM »
Is this young Maria Theresia ,spouse of King Ludwig III of Bavaria?  :-\


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Re: Help with Photo ID and/or Caption
« Reply #55 on: April 27, 2007, 03:47:22 PM »
I personally don´t think so - Marie Theresia had a rounder face and her eyes had a softer expression. However, this young woman makes me think of the Tuscany branch of the family ... :-\

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Re: Help with Photo ID and/or Caption
« Reply #56 on: April 28, 2007, 02:03:51 AM »
I personally don´t think so - Marie Theresia had a rounder face and her eyes had a softer expression. However, this young woman makes me think of the Tuscany branch of the family ... :-\

Well, the woman looks so familiar ... :-\ The description says "Princess of Bavaria" but she doesn't resemble a Wittelsbach or some spouse of a Wittelsbach.
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Re: Help with Photo ID and/or Caption
« Reply #57 on: April 28, 2007, 06:55:26 AM »
This young woman is definitely not Archduchess Maria Theresia. She also doesn't look familiar to me - so I guess that she belongs neither to the Wittelsbach nor the Habsburg family.

Maybe she belongs to the royal family of the Two Sicilies?
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Re: Help with Photo ID and/or Caption
« Reply #58 on: April 28, 2007, 09:43:13 AM »
At the end of the day she´might be "just" a normal woman...  ;)

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Re: Help with Photo ID and/or Caption
« Reply #59 on: April 28, 2007, 12:43:35 PM »
At the end of the day she´might be "just" a normal woman...  ;)

Might be :)