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Reply #15
« on: February 19, 2005, 11:42:02 PM »
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There is a small chapel with a profile of the late Emperor inside the Kaisergruft.

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Reply #16
« on: February 20, 2005, 06:21:24 AM »
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There is a white marble bust of Kaiser Karl in the Kapuzinergruft. I had myself photographed next to it when I was in Vienna for he is my favorite Kaiser. His life was so short and so full of trials, he inherited a situation no one could have handled and yet he lived like a true christian and did all he possibly could to end that bloody WWI. He did love his country and fellow countrymen. The account of his exile in Madeira and of his death in books are often heartrending and always bring tears into my eyes. Yes, the "Friedenkaiser" well deserved his beatification.
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Reply #17
« on: February 20, 2005, 07:30:11 AM »
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he is my favorite Kaiser. His life was so short and so full of trials, he inherited a situation no one could have handled and yet he lived like a true christian and did all he possibly could to end that bloody WWI.  Yes, the "Friedenkaiser" well deserved his beatification.


Agneschen, if ever you have time, please could you explain this more fully? Smiley
I still can't understand the reasons for his beatification & would love to know more. Do you have any direct quotations from him, please, which show what you mean about him living 'like a true Christian'?
Thank you!
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Reply #18
« on: February 20, 2005, 08:14:57 AM »
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That seems like a thoughtful thing. Is there any memorial plaque or anything to Carl next to Zita's crypt?


Here is an execellent website on the Kaisergruft in Vienna.  www.kaisergruft.at.

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« on: February 20, 2005, 10:30:49 AM »
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Nice to see that the Capucins have upgraded to a website...they can be so very low tech at the Kaisergruft.  However, it is one of my favorite Viennese venues, together with the Coburg Palais, the Sacher and of course Demmel's.

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« on: February 20, 2005, 01:35:55 PM »
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Agneschen, if ever you have time, please could you explain this more fully? Smiley
I still can't understand the reasons for his beatification & would love to know more. Do you have any direct quotations from him, please, which show what you mean about him living 'like a true Christian'?
Thank you!


You can go here:

http://www.beatificationemperorcharles.info/

As you can tell by the title, it should have quite a bit.  Wink  Plus they have the portraits from above as well as a good number of photographs. There are many of them with their children (and their children in groups). No portraits of them all but it could be because the family was so young when the war broke out and then they went into exile. Money being a problem, I doubt they had any portraits done.
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« on: February 20, 2005, 01:38:51 PM »
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There were plenty made just for the beatification, but I have yet to recieve mine. I am afraid most will be "holy card" types.
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« on: February 20, 2005, 04:24:07 PM »
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THANK YOU (how many more times! Smiley Smiley) grandduchessella!
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« on: February 20, 2005, 04:32:37 PM »
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There were plenty made just for the beatification, but I have yet to recieve mine. I am afraid most will be "holy card" types.


Bobby,

I have all the cards made for the beatification, and only one is similar to a deathcard type...the others are either portraits of Karl and Zita or photos of the Emperor.  A medallion was minted as well to commemorate the event and I just could not resist...next time you come visit me I can show you the display vitrine in which I have the royal medals and commemorative coins.


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« on: February 20, 2005, 04:39:43 PM »
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I have just read the biography on the website. NOW I understand Smiley
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« on: February 20, 2005, 04:44:04 PM »
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Thanks, Arturo.  That is encouraging.
If ONLY they would get here ! Of course, I do not really expect them to, for some reason.
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« on: February 20, 2005, 09:19:12 PM »
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Bobby...I bought extras...if the ones you ordered do not get to you let me know.

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« on: February 21, 2005, 07:50:09 PM »
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The coronation portrait shows the good Kronprinz Otto, yes?  I think he still lives?

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« on: February 21, 2005, 08:35:30 PM »
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He is retired now, but still alive & head of the Habsburg family. [born 12 Nov. 1912]
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and he's the one who fights the bull........
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« on: February 21, 2005, 10:08:27 PM »
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He was (is) a physician, true?  
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