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Re: King Simeon II of Bulgaria and his family
« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2005, 10:37:49 AM »
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I think King Simeon made a terrible blunder when he entered politics.

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Arturo,

Why do you think he went into politics?

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Re: King Simeon II of Bulgaria and his family
« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2005, 05:08:39 PM »
I think he went into politics because he is very good at it and because the Bulgarians initially at least wanted him back. You have to understand, Simeon is very presentable to foreign powers - he speaks numerous foreign languages, is well bred and educated - in contrast to so many other politicians from Eastern Europe. Remember, Bulgaria is a very small country, with little influence, and needs an impressive and relatively well known representative who is respected by the larger powers.

I for one am not so gloomy about Simeon's prospects in the upcoming June elections, - he's too skillful at political maneuvering to be dismissed entirely. Let's wait and see.
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Re: King Simeon II of Bulgaria and his family
« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2005, 06:31:16 PM »
His talents are duely recognized. However, one must also remember that Simeon was NOT elected to power- his party was. Much like the system in the UK,  the party then determines who they nomiate for the premiership.  At this time, his party is sharing a coalition in which it is loosing the popular consesus. As in all such countries, "fast fixes" are dissapointing and rarely materialize.
Simeon promised "1000 days" and all would be well. So far, the NATO membership is resented, as is the tender for foreign investment on the way to Euro membership.  There are other issues that are influencing the sway, a trial in Libya that sentanced  several Bulgarian  health workers to death- "where is Simeon's foreign influence?"
Property grabs opened up to the same ilk that ruined the south of Spain- Simeons friends. The involvement in Iraq... it goes on.  
Bulgaria is indeed a small nation. They like it that way. They also are very xenophobic. This is the first time they have been free of direct foreign intervention in their affairs since the 13th century. They are extremely wary of a new situation where it happens again.
Now, I shall go and read my Bulgarian online papers, it is am there already !
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Re: King Simeon II of Bulgaria and his family
« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2005, 09:33:23 AM »
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Arturo,

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I think King Simeon felt it as his duty to intervene in the political crisis and assume leadership of the government.  The last time I had a face to face with him in Vienna, I expressed my deep concern with this action, all the while expressing to His Majesty my deepest hope that it would all turn out for the better.

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Re: King Simeon II of Bulgaria and his family
« Reply #19 on: April 13, 2005, 11:40:28 AM »
Is Bulgaria Slavic?  Is Roumania Slavic?

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Re: King Simeon II of Bulgaria and his family
« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2005, 06:33:44 PM »
Meaning languages? Yes, Bulgarian is Slavic. However, Romanian is not. It is considered a romantic language, in the same league as French, Spanish, and Italian. As for culture, I don't know. My guess would be that Bulgaria is more Slavic and Romania could have a mix of Slavic/European cultures. I'm sure someone who is better informed on that will reply.

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Re: King Simeon II of Bulgaria and his family
« Reply #21 on: April 13, 2005, 07:21:28 PM »
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Meaning languages? Yes, Bulgarian is Slavic. However, Romanian is not. It is considered a romantic language, in the same league as French, Spanish, and Italian. As for culture, I don't know. My guess would be that Bulgaria is more Slavic and Romania could have a mix of Slavic/European cultures. I'm sure someone who is better informed on that will reply.



From reading about Marie of Romania, I would venture to say the culture of Romania is pseudo-French.

Are the people slavic?

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Re: King Simeon II of Bulgaria and his family
« Reply #22 on: April 14, 2005, 05:54:07 AM »
Yes,they are!Although Roumanian language is Romanic they are mostly Othodox with 11% as Catholics!Whole Balkan area are mostly Orhtodox(with just Albania as a Muslim Country)!

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Re: King Simeon II of Bulgaria and his family
« Reply #23 on: April 14, 2005, 04:36:52 PM »
the romainians greeks an albaimian are the only non slaves in easten europe the albainians like the greeks are the last enclave of peoples that inhabited the regon bethore the slavs came.

Romainia was settled in by peoples from the roman empire so there language is more relaited to italian. they also use the latin script.

bulgaria is an ancient slavic civilisation.

Hungary is unique as its people are neather slavic of latin in  has a langauge that is not realated to any other meaning it is non like spanish or english which came from other langauges Hungaryn just developed by its self but finnish later came from in.

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Re: King Simeon II of Bulgaria and his family
« Reply #24 on: April 14, 2005, 07:26:09 PM »
Bulgarians are not Slaves by origin!They are mostly Tatars who came to Europe(read Balkans) in 8th century and recived slavic customs as their own and adopted well to the surroundings!

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Re: King Simeon II of Bulgaria and his family
« Reply #25 on: April 14, 2005, 08:23:18 PM »
Khan Kubrat first came to Byzantine chronicles in 632. His tribe united the Bulgars north of the Caucasus, bewteen the sea of Azov and the Black sea. This was the formation of the first BULGARIAN state. The formation meant that "they would never become other peoples SLAVES". Unfortunately, history did not work out exactly as planned until many centuries later.
Slavs are one people, Bulgarians are NOT SLAVES.
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Re: King Simeon II of Bulgaria and his family
« Reply #26 on: April 15, 2005, 07:21:13 AM »
Well,it seems that I missed the century!I thought it was in 8th century and in fact it was in 7th!Thanks Robert!

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Re: King Simeon II of Bulgaria and his family
« Reply #27 on: April 15, 2005, 10:04:18 AM »
No problem, Marc.   This is also interesting : " The Slavs and the Bulgars retained their self-government and the territorial autonomy...from the 7th the the begining of the 10th century...the new state is referred to as a SLAV_BULGAR state". Note the differentiation of the two.
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Re: King Simeon II of Bulgaria and his family
« Reply #28 on: May 19, 2005, 10:15:14 AM »
Dear Marc,
The Bulgars were not Tatars. They were Turkic with some Persian traits. They were related to the Magyars.

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Re: King Simeon II of Bulgaria and his family
« Reply #29 on: May 20, 2005, 04:12:57 AM »
Don't know about that!I have read in the world encyclopedia(just checked now one more time) that Bulgars were Tatars who came to Europe in 7th century and that their name Bulgar(or Protobulgar as it says in the book) is also of Tataric origine!