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Re: Princess Elena Petrovna, wife of Prince Ioann Konstantinovitch
« Reply #135 on: August 02, 2010, 10:57:54 AM »
Was she not called Jabe? I see that on a picture



It also surprises me that she did not attend to the marriage of her daughter in Rome, quite strange, isn't it.

She didnt' attend her son's marriages either. To Lady Mary Lygon, first wife of Vsevolod, she just sent some family jewels.

Just as one of those side notes, Mary Lygon was tangentially related to Princess Daisy of Pless. Her mother and Daisy's brother-in-law, the Duke of Westminster, were siblings. She was also the great-niece of the 2nd Duchess of Teck (nee Margaret Grosvenor) the sister-in-law of Queen Mary. Mary's father 7th Earl Beauchamp was very well-connected and well-known at the British court. The family suffered a lot of bad luck when it came to producing sons (either they died unmarried, with  daughters or childless) and her brother was the last Earl.
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Re: Princess Elena Petrovna, wife of Prince Ioann Konstantinovitch
« Reply #136 on: August 02, 2010, 11:44:40 PM »
Where there any suitors before Prince Ioann? It seems rather odd that Princess Elena would have married so late for a royal.

She was an Orthodox Princess, and this at once limited the suitors, and with ambitious father.

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Re: Princess Elena Petrovna, wife of Prince Ioann Konstantinovitch
« Reply #137 on: August 03, 2010, 01:20:00 AM »

She married at twenty-seven? Even with limited suitors, she was pretty and I would have thought there would have been someone who showed interest before she eventually married in 1911.

Also, does anyone know how tall Princess Elena was? Thanks.

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Re: Princess Elena Petrovna, wife of Prince Ioann Konstantinovitch
« Reply #138 on: August 03, 2010, 11:52:21 AM »

She didnt' attend her son's marriages either. To Lady Mary Lygon, first wife of Vsevolod, she just sent some family jewels.
Possibly she didn't approve Ekaterina's choice, also she became very moody after the tumultuous revolutionary years in Russia and her escape from it. She definitely wanted loneliness.

I did not know, thank you Sveta.
I think she must have become very moody, since the end of the revolution I don't think she visited the italian royal family again, her son and her daughter used to pay visits but she probably remained always in the cote d'azur.

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Re: Princess Elena Petrovna, wife of Prince Ioann Konstantinovitch
« Reply #139 on: August 03, 2010, 11:53:46 AM »
Quotes from Marlene's blog about Italian royals where she mentions Helene:

"The Queen's younger sister, Princess Vera of Montenegro, and their niece, Princess Helen of Serbia, the daughter of King Peter, have also become roller skating enthusiasts, as have the queen's ladies in waiting."

"The presence of Princess Vera and Princess Helena has made the court much gayer this winter and spring than at any time since the accession of King Victor Emmanuel."

Marc, do you remember the year?

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Re: Princess Elena Petrovna, wife of Prince Ioann Konstantinovitch
« Reply #140 on: August 06, 2010, 12:12:51 AM »

Helena

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Re: Princess Elena Petrovna, wife of Prince Ioann Konstantinovitch
« Reply #141 on: August 06, 2010, 11:36:25 AM »
Quotes from Marlene's blog about Italian royals where she mentions Helene:

"The Queen's younger sister, Princess Vera of Montenegro, and their niece, Princess Helen of Serbia, the daughter of King Peter, have also become roller skating enthusiasts, as have the queen's ladies in waiting."

"The presence of Princess Vera and Princess Helena has made the court much gayer this winter and spring than at any time since the accession of King Victor Emmanuel."

Marc, do you remember the year?
Victor Emmanuel became King in 1900

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Re: Princess Elena Petrovna, wife of Prince Ioann Konstantinovitch
« Reply #142 on: August 11, 2010, 04:25:44 PM »

1903  Prince George & Prince Alexander in the back standing. Sitting Princess Helena and her cousin Prince Paul.

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Re: Princess Elena Petrovna, wife of Prince Ioann Konstantinovitch
« Reply #143 on: October 07, 2010, 11:01:06 AM »

Princess Elena Petrovna

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Re: Princess Elena Petrovna, wife of Prince Ioann Konstantinovitch
« Reply #144 on: November 20, 2010, 10:35:18 PM »
Too bad there aren't any of her in color ;-(

Meanwhile,some more pictures of her:








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Re: Princess Elena Petrovna, wife of Prince Ioann Konstantinovitch
« Reply #145 on: November 21, 2010, 11:23:31 AM »
Beautiful images Marc. The last photo is especially nice.

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Re: Princess Elena Petrovna, wife of Prince Ioann Konstantinovitch
« Reply #146 on: November 23, 2010, 06:08:48 PM »
Regarding reply #126 - French translation.

I'm from Montreal and can translate the passage in French at the bottom of the page. It says:

Next Week

A Serbian uniform saves the Grand Duke
 - Trotsky grants a "laisser passer" - a right to free passage
 - I accompany my husband to Ekaterinenbourg


The last line is a spelling correction. What was originally written - ("foux malade") - was corrected to "Fausse malade". It means a false sickness at the Tzar's doctor....or in other words  -  feigned illness and was treated by the Tzar's doctor. HRH corrected the misspelled word.


Interesting.....hope this helps! :)
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Re: Princess Elena Petrovna, wife of Prince Ioann Konstantinovitch
« Reply #147 on: November 27, 2010, 03:48:52 PM »
I have read in newspapers few days ago that there is one theory about her escape from Russia and that is that Trotsky helped her because he was grateful to her father because he lived one time in Serbia when no other country wanted him...they even mention part of Belgrade where he lived,but this is not jet checked(not even a written document that he ever lived in Serbia)-that's why it's just a theory...and that she left Russia thanks to him!

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Re: Princess Elena Petrovna, wife of Prince Ioann Konstantinovitch
« Reply #148 on: May 28, 2011, 06:04:11 AM »
One more picture of Helena as a girl:


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Re: Princess Elena Petrovna, wife of Prince Ioann Konstantinovitch
« Reply #149 on: August 26, 2012, 02:10:11 PM »
Princess Helena in mourning dress with her brother,uncle and cousin after her father's death: