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Re: Princess Elena Petrovna, wife of Prince Ioann Konstantinovitch
« Reply #45 on: October 18, 2005, 03:55:33 PM »
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Me too,but several days ago I found some parts of them on the web,so I think either the parts of it or the whole memoires are called ''I was at Ecaterinburg''!



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Re: Princess Elena Petrovna, wife of Prince Ioann Konstantinovitch
« Reply #46 on: January 21, 2006, 12:41:40 PM »
any pictures of her in old age?

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Re: Princess Elena Petrovna, wife of Prince Ioann Konstantinovitch
« Reply #47 on: March 24, 2007, 01:27:10 PM »
Dear Friends,

Princess Katherina Ioannovna of Russia (1915-2007) passed away in Montevideo, Uruguay, on March 13.  She was the last surviving grandchild of Grand Duke Konstantin Konstantinovich of Russia (1858-1915), younger brother of Queen Olga of the Hellenes.

In 1937 she married Marchese Ruggero farace di Villaforesta.  The couple had three children: Nicoletta, Fiametta and Giovanni – all with children and some with grandchildren.  In her later years Katherine settled in Montevideo, Uruguay, with her three children.

May she rest in peace...

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Re: Princess Elena Petrovna, wife of Prince Ioann Konstantinovitch
« Reply #48 on: March 25, 2007, 04:44:57 AM »
Princess Ekaterine of Russia was the last Imperial princess born in Russia, and also was the last member of the imperial family born as a result of an equal marriege. With the dead of the last imperial princess of Russia, the Romanov dinasty become to his end.
Can you please offer more informtation about her dead Arturo? I seach in the net and i don't find any thing, i also searched in the Uruguayan newspapers and i didn't find anything. Can you please provide me more information about her dead.

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Re: Princess Elena Petrovna, wife of Prince Ioann Konstantinovitch
« Reply #49 on: March 27, 2007, 12:06:22 AM »
Princess Catherine died on 13 March 2007, cf. the death announcement
in Diario El Pais, Montevideo, 17 March 2007 and Le Figaro 24 March
2007, cf. postings at Royals Portal Forum 17 and 24 March 2007. She
has been buried at the Cementerio Los Fresnos de Carrasco.

Dag T. Hoelseth


The above was posted on alt.talk.royalty by Dag Hoelseth. As to a cause of death, HSH Princess Catherine Ivanova was well over 90 years old at her passing. I don't know the cause of death, but certainly her advanced age makes it not unexpected.

I don't know if she was the longest lived of all the Romanov dynasts, but she certainly was one of the oldest. Her parents, as has been noted, were HSH Ioann Constantinovich, who was the oldest son of the famous KR, and Princess Elena of Serbia. With her death, the Constantinovichi are, I believe, extinct, at least in the male line.

Ioann was murdered at Alapaevsk along with Grand Duchess Serge (Ella), Grand Duke Serge Mikhailovich, Ioann's brothers Igor and Constantine, and Prince Vladimir Paley.

None of Ioann's sons had children.

My sincere condolences to her family.

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Re: Princess Elena Petrovna, wife of Prince Ioann Konstantinovitch
« Reply #50 on: March 30, 2007, 05:13:23 PM »
Do you know,did his wife Helena reatin her HRH status after the marriage or no?Are there any pictures of Princess Ekaterina?

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Re: Princess Elena Petrovna, wife of Prince Ioann Konstantinovitch
« Reply #51 on: March 31, 2007, 10:19:57 PM »
Are there any pictures of Princess Ekaterina?

Marc,
There is a picture of Princess Ekaterina Ioannovna of Russia in Gilded Prism: The Konstantinovichi Grand Dukes & the Last Years of the Romanov Dynasty by Greg King and Penny Wilson.

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Re: Princess Elena Petrovna, wife of Prince Ioann Konstantinovitch
« Reply #52 on: April 01, 2007, 02:19:58 PM »
Thank you for that.It a new book...Do you know did Helena retain her HRH status after her marriage?

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Re: Princess Elena Petrovna, wife of Prince Ioann Konstantinovitch
« Reply #53 on: April 01, 2007, 02:57:09 PM »
On Paul Theroff's site it said she and her husband separated (but didn't divorce) in 1945. Is this true? (He passed away in 1970) Did she feel isolated in South America or was she able to see what remained of her Russian family?

It's so sad to think that the large family of the Constantinovichi is extinct in the male line. At least there were female descendants through Queen Olga of Greece and then KR had a few descendants in the female line. Still, such a large family so decimated in such a short period of time.   
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Re: Princess Elena Petrovna, wife of Prince Ioann Konstantinovitch
« Reply #54 on: May 20, 2007, 12:27:20 PM »
A photo of an elderly Princess Ekaterina can be seen here: http://www.riuo.org/RussianVersion/Circular/circular58/IMPEREZ_58.pdf

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Re: Princess Elena Petrovna, wife of Prince Ioann Konstantinovitch
« Reply #55 on: May 20, 2007, 05:24:55 PM »
Anyone who knows Russian?I would like just a short(anything interesting in a few words) translation of this article...so if anyone can help...

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Re: Princess Elena Petrovna, wife of Prince Ioann Konstantinovitch
« Reply #56 on: May 22, 2007, 12:56:20 AM »
Anyone who knows Russian?I would like just a short(anything interesting in a few words) translation of this article...so if anyone can help...

Marc,

there is a general info on Princess Ekaterina in the article. Such as "was born in", "escaped from Russia wth her Grandmother Grand Duchess Elizaveta Mavrikievna", "married in 1937", "divorced in 1945". Nothing special. :(

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Re: Princess Elena Petrovna, wife of Prince Ioann Konstantinovitch
« Reply #57 on: May 22, 2007, 04:56:12 PM »
Thank you Svetabel,maybe I was hoping for some new info  :-[

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Re: Princess Elena Petrovna, wife of Prince Ioann Konstantinovitch
« Reply #58 on: May 30, 2007, 07:23:33 PM »
Here is GDss Maria's statement:

Dear Countrymen!
It is with deep sadness that I must inform you of the repose on 13 March 2007 of our relative, Her Serene Highness Princess of the Blood Ekaterina Ivanovna. She was 92 years old.
The deceased princess was the daughter of His Highness, Prince of the Imperial Blood Ivan Konstantinovich, who died a martyr’s death at Alapaevsk, along with the Holy New Martyrs Grand Duchess Elizabeth Fedorovna and the nun Barbara, with Prince Ivan Konstantinovich’s brothers, Prince Konstantine Konstantinovich and Igor Konstantinovich, with Grand Duke Sergei Mikhailovich, and with Prince V. P. Paley.
While living in exile, Princess Ekaterina Ivanovna, heeding the precepts of her own heart and the will of her August Mother, Princess Elena Petrovna, scrupulously and faithfully observed the laws and traditions of Our House. Her Serene Highness was always interested in events taking place in the Motherland, and she sincerely loved Russia.
I ask all our countrymen to pray for the repose of the soul of the newly-departed Princess Ekaterina Ivanovna. May the Lord grant rest to her soul in the abode of the righteous.
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Re: Princess Elena Petrovna, wife of Prince Ioann Konstantinovitch
« Reply #59 on: July 04, 2007, 03:59:11 AM »
I'm not sure where to post this appeal and I know this thread has not been active for a while but here goes.  I  have been trying for months to track down a copy of Princess Helena of Serbia's memoir 'I Too Was in Ekaterinburg'. Although this was published in Atlantis Magazine: In the Courts of Memory vol 1. no. 3 1999, I cannot, despite extensive searching, find a copy of Atlantis anywhere in any library in the UK where I live.  I tried emailing Greg and Penny on the FOTR website about getting a copy and had no reply. My letter to their PO Box address for the magazine has been returned unopened as no longer valid.

Neither have I been able to trace the full publication details of the original French version - which came out in 'L'Illustre' some time in the 1950s as 'J'Etais a Ekaterinbourg'.

Does anybody on the list have a copy of the Atlantis issue that they could photocopy and send to me here in Oxford? I would be happy to pay the costs involved.  If so, please contact me off list.  Thank you so much, Helen
PS I shall be in Ekaterinburg 12-20 July for the Royal Days, if anybody on the list is also by chance going.