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Re: Residences of some Grand Dukes in St.Petersburg
« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2005, 06:21:48 AM »
Mike,
I continue to be amazed at your ability to find wonderful pictures that seem so rare, like the Kiril & Ducky's mansion (You're right--not much of a palace.)
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any chance you know of a picture of Anglisky(English) Prospekt 18?  It's the house Nicholas supposedly bought for Mathilde Kshesinskaya and where he visited her.
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Bob G
PS in another thread, I just learned Nicholas first leased, then bought the house from Rimsky-Korsakov.
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Re: Residences of some Grand Dukes in St.Petersburg
« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2005, 10:24:23 PM »
 :)Greetings, everyone.

It is difficult to believe that all three Michailovichis - Nicolas, Georgii and Sergei shared the same palace on the Palace Embankment (Novo-Michailovskii Palace). Yes, it is huge - but - three adult men with their own little  GD courts, staff members, employees, etc., plus one of them is married with kids the while two others are eligible bachelors with their own well-developed lifestiles, habits, hobbies - all three of them in one house?
 I remember that years ago, while studying in St.Petersburg i happened to read an article in one of the Russian (Soviet then) historical periodicals -  cannot recall the periodical's name - about the February Revolution 1917 (The Fall of The Russian Monarchy). Particurlarly the artcle was concerned about the details of GD Michael Alexandrovich abdication. Having nothing to do with the architecture of Romanovs' residences as such, the authors of the article, however, tried to present a reader with a short "tour" along the Millionnaia Street (where in one of the upper class apartment buildings, at Prince Putijatin's apartment, the historical meeting between GD Michael and members of the Duma took place - tragically resulting in GD's abdication). To cut the story short - the apartment building was located somewhere between the Winter Palace and Novo-Michailovskii Palace. For whatever reason, a number of other buildings along the Millionnaija were mentioned by the author(s), with short descriptions. The building right across the Novo-Michailovskii Palace - through Millionnaja- was named as the Zapasnoi (Reserve) Novo-Michailovskii Palace. Unfortunately i do not remember the street address. The Novo-Michailovskii Palace proper is located between the Palace Embankment and the Millionnaia and the so-called Reserve Novo-Michailovskii Palace - right across the Millionnaja, being located between the Millionaja and the Moika Embankment.
I went there to see the "reserve" NM palace. It does not look like a palace - more like an apartment building - four- or five-storey high. But the exterior decor (Neo-Rococo) - is strikingly similar to the NM Palace across the street. It looks as if it was designed bu the same architect or, at least, the "reserve" one was modelled on the main palace.
Could it be that this "Reserve" NM Palace (if the authors of the article made no mistake) was a residence of one or two other Michailovichis, while the main NM Palace remained a residence of GD Nicolas Michailovich???
( i believe it was him who inherited the Palace after his father GD Michail Nicolajevich).

 

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Re: Residences of some Grand Dukes in St.Petersburg
« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2005, 02:37:17 PM »
The EIST site is functioning again, and we can see the modest two-story house at 18, Angliyskiy Prospect that was bought by the heir Nicholas for Matilda Kshesinskaya. However, she wasn't the first Romanov's ballet mistress to live there. Prior to her moving in, it belonged to prima-ballerina Anna Kuznetsova, a passion of GD Konstantin Nikolayevich who actually built the house for her.

As I've aready told BobG, I happened to be inside the house many times: it belongs to the Samoilova candy/chocolate factory (Georges Bormann prior to the revolution) where my wife used to work at a factory health clinic. The family members were allowed to come from time to time and eat as much sweets as they could. At that time nobody of the personnel seemed to know about the house's romantic past. Neither did I.

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Re: Residences of some Grand Dukes in St.Petersburg
« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2005, 05:54:12 PM »
Mike,
Which one is it???... I s this another facade of the same house?.. It looks nothing  like the photo Brian posted... I am confused....
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Re: Residences of some Grand Dukes in St.Petersburg
« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2005, 02:53:34 AM »
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Which one is it???... I s this another facade of the same house?.. It looks nothing  like the photo Brian posted... I am confused....

It's the two-story building in the middle. Which photo do you mean? May be one of Kshesinskaya's own mansion that she builded much later, close to the Peter & Paul fortress?

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Re: Residences of some Grand Dukes in St.Petersburg
« Reply #20 on: June 24, 2005, 05:25:28 AM »
Mike,
Thanks so much for posting the picture.  It is such an important part of Nicholas II's history.  When you think of the nights he spent there--visiting Matilda "platonically."
Also, it gives us an idea of how Matilda moved her lovers to bigger and better houses as she became more well known.
Thanks again.
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Re: Residences of some Grand Dukes in St.Petersburg
« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2005, 05:32:08 AM »
Yes, but it was Matilda who earned money for her family in Paris.
I think that the Matilda became very modern woman before the revolution, which gave her the force to overcome those awful times.

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Re: Residences of some Grand Dukes in St.Petersburg
« Reply #22 on: October 08, 2005, 12:30:32 PM »
I have been trying to find information on where GD Peter Nickokayevich lived in St. Petersburg.

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I just read in A Lifelong Passion that Anna Virubova first met Rasputin at Grand Duke Petr Nicolaevich and Militsa's palace on the English Embankment.
Does anyone know what Number the palace was?



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Actually Petr Nikolaevich and Militsa Nikolaevna lived on Petrovskaia Embankment, near the St. P&P Fortress.


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The palace that Petr Nikolaevich and his family lived in on the Petrovskaia Embankment is no longer there.  It was torn down in the 30s to make room for, I believe, the Comintern headquarters.


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according to Zoia Beliakova in ROMANOV ST PETERSBURG, this was the building in which Petr Nikolaevich (and family) rented 2 floors




Does anyone have a sense of when Peter N. lived at each location?  Is there a picture ANYWHERE of the palace on the Petrovskaia Embankment?  Any help is greatly appreciated.
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Re: Residences of some Grand Dukes in St.Petersburg
« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2006, 05:20:48 PM »
Does anyone happen to know the address of Grand Duke Nicholas "Nikolasha" Nikolaevich's palace on the Neva?

Thanks!

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Re: Residences of some Grand Dukes in St.Petersburg
« Reply #24 on: March 30, 2006, 12:24:32 AM »
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Does anyone happen to know the address of Grand Duke Nicholas "Nikolasha" Nikolaevich's palace on the Neva?

Thanks!

Petrovskaya Quay, 2.

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Re: Residences of some Grand Dukes in St.Petersburg
« Reply #25 on: March 30, 2006, 09:52:35 AM »
Thank you!

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Re: Residences of some Grand Dukes in St.Petersburg
« Reply #26 on: March 30, 2006, 10:05:09 AM »
There are two pictures posted on here of palaces belonging to Grand Duke Dmitri Konstantinovich. Does anyone know their addresses and if he still owned them at the time of the Revolution (before all Imperial property was seized)?

I thought I read that he along with his niece and her children resided principally at Strelna Palace and Kishkine in the Crimea.

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Re: Residences of some Grand Dukes in St.Petersburg
« Reply #27 on: June 12, 2006, 09:49:31 AM »
Possibly the answer is late but anyway. :)

Actually after the sale of Nikolayevskiy Palace GD Petr decided to build a new palace for his family, and in 1897 the foundation stone was laid (near the Troitskiy Bridge ). But  the Palace was never built. :(
 The Grand Ducal family rented 2 floors of the von Derviz mansion on English Embankment,34, and in 1904 moved to Fontanka, 22. In fact Petr's family lived in Petersbourg only in winters, springs and falls were spent in the Crimea, summers in Znamenka.

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Re: Residences of some Grand Dukes in St.Petersburg
« Reply #28 on: June 12, 2006, 11:13:08 AM »
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Does anyone happen to know the address of Grand Duke Nicholas "Nikolasha" Nikolaevich's palace on the Neva?

Thanks!

Petrovskaya Quay, 2.

The Palace of GD Nikolay Nikolayevich on Petrovskaya Quay,2.

In the 1990s



And in 1912.  In the foreground of the photo you can see Empress Alexandra Fedorovna and her daughters.


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Re: Residences of some Grand Dukes in St.Petersburg
« Reply #29 on: May 23, 2015, 08:53:49 AM »
Hello everyone

Does anybody know where GD Sergei Michailovich, Georgi Michailovich and Dimitri Konstantinovich resided in St.Petersburg proper? And what about Petr Nicolaevich, Pavel Alexandrovich and all three Vladimirovichi (Kirill, Boris and Andrei)?

I know that I am late to the game, but as of 1912, the official St. Petersburg residences of the Grand Dukes were as follows (in order of precedence):

HIH Grand Duke Michael Alexandrovich, The Anichkov Palace
HIH Grand Duke Kirill Vladimirovich, Glinka, 13
HIH Grand Duke Boris Vladimirovich, Quai de la Cour, 26
HIH Grand Duke Andrei Vladimirovvich, Quai Anglais, 28
HIH Grand Duke Paul Alexandrovich, Quai Anglais, 68
HIH Grand Duke Dimitri Pavlovich, Nevsky, 41
HIH Grand Duke Nikolai Konstantinovich, (at Tashkent)
HIH Grand Duke Konstantin Konstantinovich, The Marble Palace
HIH Grand Duke Dimitri Konstantinovich, Strelna (No town residence)
HIH Grand Duke Nikolai Nikolaevich, Quai de L'Empereur Pierre 7 & 60-83
HIH Grand Duke Peter Nikolaevich, Fontanka, 22
HIH Grand Duke Nikolai Mikhailovich Quai de la Cour 18-13
HIH Grand Duke Michael Mikhailovich, (At Ken Wood, Hampstead, London)
HIH Grand Duke George Mikhailovich, Quai de La Cour 18-15
HIH Grand Duke Alexander Mikhailovich, Moika 104
HIH Grand Duke Sergei Mikhailovich, Quai de la Cour 18-17